COVID from a China lab.

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  1. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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  3. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    The CDC does not work for you nor me.
    from your linked
    "I do not believe this somehow came from a bat to a human. And at that moment in time, the virus came to the human, became one of the most infectious viruses that we know in humanity for human to human transmission ... Normally, when a pathogen goes from a zoonot to human, it takes a while for it to figure out how to become more and more efficient."
    Without assigning intentionality, Redfield told me he believes the origin of the pandemic is a lab in China that was already studying the virus, exposing it to human cell cultures.
    "Most of us in a lab, when trying to grow a virus, we try to help make it grow better, and better, and better, and better, and better, and better so we can do experiments and figure out about it. That's the way I put it together."

    yeh---seems likely

    Redfield could speak openly because he ain't part of the CDC anymore
    Would he speak so freely if he were still employed/part of the CDC?
    (I doubt it)
     
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  5. Hercules Rockefeller Beatings will continue until morale improves. Moderator

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    The original post is very unclear and hard to understand. If the assertion is that the SARS-CoV-2 virus has been intentionally manipulated and escaped the laboratory (either intentionally or unintentionally), then the science says otherwise. Genomic sequencing has clearly indicated a natural zoonotic origin.

    Characteristics of SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19
    Hu et al., Nat Rev Microbiol . 2021 Mar;19(3):141-154.
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33024307/

    Phylogenetic network analysis of SARS-CoV-2 genomes
    Forster et al., Proc Natl Acad Sci USA, 2020 Apr 28;117(17):9241-9243
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32269081/

    Genetics and genomics of SARS-CoV-2: A review of the literature with the special focus on genetic diversity and SARS-CoV-2 genome detection
    Rahimi et al., Genomics, 2021 Jan;113(1 Pt 2):1221-1232.
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33007398/
     
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    Whether or not this particular virus escaped from a lab,is it not the case that all parties to international (or other) conflicts or standoffs are forced by circumstance to attempt to ensure their own security at the expense of their rivals?

    In the case of biological warfare this kind of fuck up is an ongoing risk whether or not such may have occurred in this particular case.

    Didn't the Russians make similar claims about Porton Down when they poisoned their "enemy within" on English soil?

    It is a murky world, that of Spy vs Spy.

    Conspiracy theories are hard to avoid in that arena.
     
  8. Luchito Registered Senior Member

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    To me, the only way to think China released that virus is if China had the vaccine already to protect themselves.
     
  9. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    “A lot”, eh?

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    Okay, I'll bite.... How many, exactly? Given that there have always been anti-vaxers, that’s not saying much. In fact, it’s saying nothing at all. You’ll always be able to find a handful of apparently well-credentialled people to support any crackpot idea you want: vaccines are dangerous, human-induced climate change isn’t real, the Moon landing was a hoax, the World Trade Center collapse was deliberately engineered, the world is flat.

    That you can find a few non-peer reviewed personal websites, YouTube videos and books means……

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    Coronavirus likely spread to people from an animal -- but needs more study, new WHO report says
    https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/30/health/who-coronavirus-origin-report/index.html
    Saw that maybe yesterday...

    Was more thinking of the WWIII edge. You've got QUAD and EU countries overtly looking to react if China militarily invades Taiwan.


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  14. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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    I'm not sure but there seem to be a lot.

    Doctors Around The World Issue Warnings Against The COVID-19 Vaccine
    https://eraoflight.com/2021/01/04/d...-issue-warnings-against-the-covid-19-vaccine/

    Doctors now warn about permanent damage and cardiovascular events following COVID-19 vaccination
    https://foreignaffairsintelligencec...scular-events-following-covid-19-vaccination/

    “Find Me One Doctor That Is Against Vaccines” — Sure, I’ll Find You Hundreds
    https://humansarefree.com/2019/06/f...inst-vaccines-sure-ill-find-you-hundreds.html
     
  15. David C On planet earth Registered Senior Member

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    Just stop right there. You know nothing about any subject you post on. Nada. You spew woo.

    This is called science. It is a doctor issuing a warning about the possibilities of damage in elderly patients recently infected. You just post crap without reading it.
     
  16. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    China accused of withholding data from WHO Covid origins investigation in Wuhan
    https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news...s-03-31-21/h_89d1be2090ae8156dc4a5a1ac8644a77

    Ah ha!
     
  17. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Just didn't think Chinese would just open up everything for WHO to look at and pull apart?

    How ever only for reading and my smidgen of knowledge I would go with animal to human transfer

    I would have expected if released (intentionally or unintentionally) it would have ripped through the population a lot faster

    Just my 2 cents input

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  18. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    You're opinions are against God.

    You proudly proclaim yourself a sinner.

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  19. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    If this is what a Religious Preacher looks like getting rid of COVID-19 pass me my sinner badge



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  20. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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    Anyone who reads it can see that he's talking about the dangers of the covid vaccine.

    Doctors now warn about permanent damage and cardiovascular events following COVID-19 vaccination
    https://foreignaffairsintelligencec...scular-events-following-covid-19-vaccination/

    Are you trying to sway those viewers who don't bother to click on the links and read the info?
     
  21. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    That was a suprisingly good video!
     
  22. David C On planet earth Registered Senior Member

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    No. Anyone who reads it with any semblance of understanding can see he is highlighting a potential danger and he is very specific about it.

    No. I'm trying to give them data to stop them falling into the stupid pit.
     
  23. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Oscar winning performance

    Small detail - COVID-19 still present and it seems more prevalent in America

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