Cowspiracy: The Astonishing Hypocrisy of Climate Alarmists

Discussion in 'Conspiracies' started by Eugene Shubert, Dec 23, 2016.

  1. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    The problem is you are generalizing when you refer to "they".

    I doubt you can find anyone who says " [ I ] fanatically believe in a coming climate apocalypse and desperately whine about reducing greenhouse gasses to save the world but [ I ] also hypocritically insist on continuing to subsidize the major environmental disaster that ensures the inevitable doom of humankind's existence."

    This is rhetoric. It's great for a blog, but not for a debate.
     
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  3. Eugene Shubert Valued Senior Member

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    If you really care to know the exact form of the hypocritical denials, just watch Cowspiracy.
     
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  5. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    No. You are making the case here. This is not YouTube.

    Posts have been shut down because posters provide links to giant ideos and then expect it to speak for them.
    This is just an ad for a video.
     
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  7. Eugene Shubert Valued Senior Member

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    Please post links from a few well-known environmentalist organizations containing such assertions to prove your point.
     
  8. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    None of that is evidence for your claim in #113.
     
  9. Eugene Shubert Valued Senior Member

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    Evidence for blissful ignorance if not the hypocritical insistence in continuing to subsidize the major environmental disaster known as the meat, dairy and egg industry, which ensures the inevitable doom of humankind, is plainly evident in post #37, #44, #54, #78.
     
  10. Eugene Shubert Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, I'm doing a very good job.
     
  11. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    None of that is evidence for your claim in #113.
     
  12. Eugene Shubert Valued Senior Member

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    Feel free to jump in folks to supply the missing evidence.
     
  13. Kristoffer Giant Hyrax Valued Senior Member

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    Fixed it for you.
     
  14. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    I know you don't care, but:

    Sierra Club (Ohio Chapter) website for their Meatless Monday drive -
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    Why is this important?

    “By becoming vegetarian or vegan, or even just eating less meat, you can make a big difference. It will help animals and it will help the planet. As more and more people eat more and more meat, forests are cleared to provide land to grow grain to feed the billions of animals confined in horrendous factory farms.These animals produce large amounts of methane gas during the process of digestion – an even more potent greenhouse gas than CO2. And the waste from the operations is washed into rivers and lakes, poisoning the water and creating algae blooms. And finally, remember that cows, pigs, chickens and other farmed animals are not just machines – like us they feel pain and know emotions such as contentment and depression. So many people tell me they love animals – but make food choices that do not reflect that love. I fully support the Meatless Monday campaign, helping people in the Cleveland community realize the power of their choices when they band together to help make our world a better place.”

    ~ Jane Goodall, Ph.D., DBE, Founder, the Jane Goodall Institute & UN Messenger of Peace

    The raising of cows, pigs and chicken in animal factories contributes to:

    Global warming, as huge amounts of greenhouse-gas emissions are released
    The livestock sector generates enormous amounts of the greenhouse gases nitrous oxide (mostly coming from animal manure) and methane (largely produced by the digestive system of ruminants).

    Close to 1/3 of all fossil fuels produced in the U.S. go towards animal agriculture. Every link in the chain of events that brings a meat-based diet from the factory or feedlot to the table demands huge amounts of electricity.

    A 2010 United Nations report concluded that a shift toward a vegan diet is necessary to combat the worst effects of climate change.

    Water pollution from manure runoff into sources of water
    Massive amounts of manure get funneled into huge waste lagoons, which often break, leak or overflow, polluting sources of water with nitrogen and phosphorus … causing oxygen-depleting algal blooms, toxic algae and fish kills.

    Water depletion from the immense amount of water required to raise crops to feed the animals
    More water is withdrawn from the Ogallala aquifer every year for beef production than is used to grow all the fruits and vegetables in the entire country. If we continue pumping out the Ogallala at current rates, it’s only a matter of time before most of the wells in the midwest and southwest will go dry, and portions of these states will become scarcely habitable for human beings.

    Human illness
    Close to 80% of antibiotics manufactured today are fed daily – like vitamins – to factory raised livestock, to ensure rapid growth. Unnecessary use of antibiotics is taking us towards a time when antibiotics will not longer work.

    Toxic algae from manure runoff and fertilizers (used on corn and soy which is fed to factory raised animals) can impair human health. Toxic algae made the water unsafe to drink for several days in Toledo, Ohio.

    Honeybee demise from the corn planted to feed the animals
    Most corn is genetically manipulated by artificially gene splicing together completely different species, bypassing the natural species barrier. These corn seeds are encapsulated with neonicotine pesticides. Neonicotines are strongly linked to the demise of honeybees, a major pollinator for our food supply.

    Foul air in rural communities from nearby animal factories
    Dust particles, carrying toxic ammonia and hydrogen sulfide, can penetrate the lungs of humans living nearby.

    Rainforest depletion as millions of trees are decimated for grazing and crop production in the Amazon
    Livestock production is responsible for 70% of deforestation in the Amazon region of Latin America, where rainforests are being cleared to create new pastures.
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    From the Earth First! website:

    From: David A Gabel, ENN
    Published April 16, 2012 09:53 AM
    UN: Meat Consumption Must be Cut to Reduce Greenhouse Gases
    In the developed world, citizens take advantage of the enormous bounty of meat while shopping at markets and dining in restaurants. For some, a meal can only be classified as real if it contains some kind of meat in it. According to the UN, the attitude towards meat consumption has to change, and people must cut back. This is a necessary step in reducing one of the most potent greenhouse gases, nitrous oxide (N2O). A recent study by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) suggests that the developed world needs to cut its meat consumption by 50 percent per person by the year 2050.
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    From Greenpeace website:

    We work on the animal agriculture issues by campaigning on cattle ranching, animal feed and destructive fishing, we encourage people to eat less or no meat and fish, and we serve only vegan and vegetarian food at our on site cafe.
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    NRDC:

    Diets featuring less meat and more fruits and vegetables are beneficial to maintaining a healthy
    weight and reducing the risk of diet-related chronic diseases. Many Americans have heeded this
    advice, and red meat consumption in this country has dropped about 25 percent since the mid-
    1970s.

    But the standard American diet still falls short of health experts’ recommendations when
    it comes to meat consumption. On average, Americans eat 3.1 ounces of red meat per day—much
    more than the 1.8 ounces that the USDA recommend.
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    Union of Concerned Scientists:

    Industrial agriculture currently dominates U.S. food production. It revolves around monoculture—the planting of one crop on the same land year after year—and meat production in large, polluting facilities called CAFOs. This approach to farming depends on chemical inputs such as synthetic fertilizers, pesticides, and antibiotics. As a result, industrial farming is so damaging to the environment and public health that it is unsustainable in the long term.
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    UNEP:

    A global shift towards a vegan diet is vital to save the world from hunger, fuel poverty and the worst impacts of climate change, a UN report said today.

    As the global population surges towards a predicted 9.1 billion people by 2050, western tastes for diets rich in meat and dairy products are unsustainable, says the report from United Nations Environment Programme’s (UNEP) international panel of sustainable resource management.

    It says: “Impacts from agriculture are expected to increase substantially due to population growth increasing consumption of animal products. Unlike fossil fuels, it is difficult to look for alternatives: people have to eat. A substantial reduction of impacts would only be possible with a substantial worldwide diet change, away from animal products.”
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  15. Eugene Shubert Valued Senior Member

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    Whatever alleviates your pain and the shame of your sham religion.
     
  16. Eugene Shubert Valued Senior Member

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    Wow! What an awesome sacrifice! A Meatless Monday. Why were you too ashamed to post the link?
     
  17. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    As I suspected you didn't really care. Your political bias is blinding you to fact.

    Ophiolite said that most environmental organizations he's read seem to be equally critical of our intensive farming methods, meat eating and cattle rearing. You doubted that. I posted six criticisms of said intensive farming methods from major environmental organizations, thus proving you wrong. You are now desperately trying to change the subject; instead of claiming they do not criticize intensive farming methods, you now want to change your complaint to "they don't do enough."

    You are embarrassing yourself badly. Perhaps try another less science-based forum? There are plenty of fact-free denier sites out there that will stroke your ego for you if you're feeling a bit deflated.
     
  18. Eugene Shubert Valued Senior Member

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    I've read plenty of silly material from climate alarmists that confirms their satisfaction with indisputable ineffectiveness, such as their Meatless Mondays attitude, which isn't a solution. It's a delusion.

    Here is one especially annoying sample of their laughable ignorance:

    http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs...n-tax-would-be-better-than-the-eus-vacuum-ban
     
  19. Eugene Shubert Valued Senior Member

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    Anyone satisfied with Meatless Mondays obviously enjoys living in the Meatrix:

     
  20. Eugene Shubert Valued Senior Member

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    To be satisfied with encouraging people to eat less meat is to live in the meatrix.
     
  21. Eugene Shubert Valued Senior Member

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    In how http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/ ranks priorities, for example, the undeniable absence of substance on their main page is clearly displayed.
     
  22. Eugene Shubert Valued Senior Member

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    What is so telling about the screenshot of greenpeace.org/usa in the Cowspiracy documentary is that it listed all their major issues on one page and there wasn't even the slightest hint of there being a Cowspiracy.
     
  23. danshawen Valued Senior Member

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    You have to be quick to get disinformation, because sources of it are being shut down. I have mixed feelings about that, only because I wonder who is there to shut down the ones who are shutting down disinformation if for whatever reason the ones doing so have warped views of reality akin to the kind of disinformation they are shutting down? Or what if they are simply being fed disinformation about what information should be shut down? That would be a conspiracy too.

    Blimey! I can't even find Eugene's post I responded to now. It's a conspiracy.

    Good one, Eugene.
     
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