Dating Ramayan

Discussion in 'Eastern Philosophy' started by kmguru, Jun 9, 2007.

  1. kmguru Staff Member

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    Interesting from Wikipedia

    As per the traditional astronomical back-projection by Vedic system, the event of the war between Rāma and Rāvana is supposed to have happened 880,148 years ago, as of April 09, 2006.

    Was that in the time of Atlantis? Interesting though...
     
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  3. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    How old is the Surya Vansh? Also, is the dating system based on the Sun?
     
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  5. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    You mean back in the time of fiction?
     
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  7. kmguru Staff Member

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  8. kmguru Staff Member

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    All past is fiction, unless you were there...
     
  9. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    And you were?
     
  10. VitalOne Banned Banned

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    The Atlantis golden age was around 50,000 BCE (supposedly) but started much earlier 100,000s of years before...

    Whats really interesting is that the Mahabharata speaks of an intelligent race of monkey-like beings (kimpuruṣas)....in which the dating of 800,000 years ago would make perfect sense (which is around the same time evolution puts an intelligent race of monkey-like beings existing)
     
  11. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    Assuming Atlantis actually existed.

    Depending upon what "intelligent" means in each context of course.
     
  12. kmguru Staff Member

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    Could be the missing link or an entirely different specis....we all have a tail bone....

    I was watching History channel last night about Edgar Cayce who said that Atlantis was a super modern city and got destroyed some 12,000 years ago. And that we will find evidence under the left paw of the Sphinx. Interesting
     
  13. kmguru Staff Member

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    Warning: This is Eastern Philosophy section and not the pseudoscience section. Posts are subject to deletion if out of bound...or with sarcasm
     
  14. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    It wasn't sarcasm:

    How did the Mahabharata define intelligence in the race of monkey-like beings and what level of intelligence is ascribed by evolution to those monkeys?

    Not pseudoscience? And you're bringing Atlantis as a "super modern city" into Eastern philosophy? With Edgar Cayce as supporting evidence?
     
  15. VitalOne Banned Banned

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    Well yeah...obviously..

    Very close to human-like intelligence.....not the same as regular monkeys...
     
  16. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    For BOTH sources? Evolution and the scripts?
    The intelligence was evidenced by what means?
     
  17. kmguru Staff Member

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    Same means as the virgin birth, I think.What else could it be when discussing Eastern Philosophy? I guess hints do not work for *certain* people.

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  18. Zephyr Humans are ONE Registered Senior Member

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    Who recorded the monkeys' presence? Were they intelligent enough to write?
     
  19. kmguru Staff Member

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    If you do not know the story of Ramayan or anything about the past history of Mahabharat (the extended Indian sub-continent), then it is a good idea to google some more before posting dumb comments. Thank you
     
  20. Zephyr Humans are ONE Registered Senior Member

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    Sorry. Just wondered how much it correlates with evolutionary theory as I've heard it.
     
  21. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    just as a point of reference, the kimpurusas are descendants of the daughter of Daksa (one of the many progenitors of living enitites)

    they are attributed to possessing mystic perfections

    SB 4.18.20: Others also, the inhabitants of planets known as Kimpuruṣa-loka, made the demon Maya into a calf, and they milked out mystic powers by which one can disappear immediately from another's vision and appear again in a different form.

    the very word kimpurusa means kim (what?) purusa (human) - in other words "what sort of human is this?". They have a range of appearances mixed with that of humanoids (not just monkeys)

    In other words kimpurusas are clearly defined as something distinct from the animal species
     
  22. kmguru Staff Member

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    This is my view as I heard from several gurus in India:

    The Dasha Avatar describes pretty much the evolution process.

    1. Fish
    2. Tortoise
    3. Boar
    4. Man-beast
    5. Dwarf
    6. Parsurama - a person using stone tools
    7. Rama - The king using bows and arrows
    8. Sri Krishna - Cows, Agriculture
    9. Buddha - Information age
    10. Kalki - World Destruction [yet to come]

    I think the process is non-linear over time with an exponential structure
     
  23. kmguru Staff Member

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    While Ramayana talks about Monkey people, I do not think they were just large monkeys. Perhaps they were a different human specis like Neanderthals with tails and facial feature somewhat different than humans perhaps a separate but common stock - if that time line is correct.
     

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