Decreasing Male Libido

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  1. darksidZz Valued Senior Member

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    According to my research this herb will reduce my male urges to mate. I've decided to try it for awhile and report back here on its effects. I've ordered it online and should be recieving it soon! Although it's used for women there is evidence to suggest it will reduce the male sex drive. I intend to put it to the test... prepare...

    "Vitex is one of the best herbs for balancing hormones, regulating menstrual cycles and relieving symptoms of PMS. Vitex works on the pituitary gland, which is responsible for signaling the body to make the appropriate amounts of each hormone, therefore, it helps to bring balance at the core of the issue. It may take several weeks of use (6-12) to start to see its results.

    Vitex Agnus-Castus, also commonly called Monks Pepper, acts as a stimulate for the pituitary gland to produce more progesterone and less prolactin. It does not contain hormones, but only stimulates the pituitary gland.

    Many women with menstrual cycle irregularities do not produce enough progesterone during the second phase of their menstrual cycle (luteal phase). This means that estrogen, the dominant female hormone in the first phase, continues to dominate in the second phase leading to a number of menstrual cycle abnormalities. It is also frequently found that in women with these problems they have a high concentration of prolactin. High levels of prolactin in latter phases of the menstrual cycle lead to breast tenderness, and is associated with infertility.

    Vitex useful in treating peri menopausal and menopausal symptoms, in particular hot flushes, and menstrual irregularities such as flooding, clotting and irregular cycle. Post menopausal women who still feel cyclic mood swings can also benefit.

    It is also hugely helpful in relieving PMS symptoms, especially headaches and mood swings."

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    "Its historical use as an herb to decrease libido and “keep one chaste” suggest it also has a moderating affect on testosterone function. Though long considered valuable for enhancing progesterone, the potential affect of Vitex on testosterone and estrogen levels must be kept in mind when using of this herb."

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    "Research has shown that vitex may indeed be helpful for treating premenstrual syndrome (PMS), erratic menstrual cycles, and insufficient milk supply in women, and may even help reduce sex drive in men. Vitex causes the pituitary gland to decrease production of follicle stimulating horomone (FSH) and to increase production of luteinizing hormone (LH), a hormonal shift that indirectly leads to higher progesterone levels and a decrease of male hormones, or androgens, in the body."
     
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    Day 1: Vitex 40 mg capsules

    I've just acquired the Vitex supplement last night. I took 2 40 mg's and feel relaxed + cheerful. Normally I'd be very sad right now for lack of girlfriend, for some reason my thoughts are more clear. This might be an initial reaction to the supplement, similar to when you first try a new food. The instructions tell me it'll take 6 weeks for this to fully integrate into my system and have an effect. I will keep you updated on the situation and inform you guys if anything changes.

    So for now I concur it does relax and calm your desires, at least initially. It might also be a placebo effect but I think it's maybe 1/10 having it's full effect right now, so that's a start. From what I've read it more or less stabilizes your hormonal balance but contains no estrogen, thus it should be safe for a man.

    Here's an interesting article on it http://www.vitaminstuff.com/blog/2007/04/vitex-if-youre-bodybuilding-or-in-mood.html

    I will keep you updated on the effects most likely posting in 7 days. My dosage will be 2 40mg's, 1 morning 1 afternoon
     
  8. Carcano Valued Senior Member

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    The Vitex made by NOW and Solaray products comes in 300-400mg capsules...so your 80mg/day doesnt sound like enough.

    In any event, there arent supposed to be any effects for several weeks so...?
     
  9. Carcano Valued Senior Member

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    Heres more info on the dosage:

    http://www.answers.com/topic/chasteberry-tree?cat=health

    "Chasteberry may be taken as a tincture, an extract, a tea or in capsules. The usual dosage is 200 mg of the berry, with a standardized amount (0.5%) of the active ingredient agnuside.

    According to one naturopathic physician, the usual dosage of extract of chasteberry is 175–225 mg on a daily basis.

    Capsules are available in doses from 40–400 mg. The capsules are usually taken one to three a day about one hour before breakfast to increase their absorption. If taken before bedtime, chasteberry may aid in sleeping as well as increasing the secretion of melatonin in the early morning. Because chasteberry acts slowly in the body, it can take from one to six months to see permanent results."
     
  10. darksidZz Valued Senior Member

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    Thank you for the data, I've ordered a larger dosage online and should be recieving it this week. I will up my doses to 2 tablets of 40 mg in the night and 2 in the morning. That means 80 + 80 each day. Soon we shall have more results, just wait... I will not be held back from my goals!

    Incidently I've been having some rather odd dreams as of the past few days, vivid, active, and somehow calming. Pretty freakin weird but cool non-the-less!
     
  11. darksidZz Valued Senior Member

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    It's been a few days since I began my current treatment for male sexual desire. The only thing I've noticed is that my dreams are somewhat odd, also I feel more rested with less sleep. Interesting so far..
     
  12. madanthonywayne Morning in America Staff Member

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    Why the hell would you want to decrease your libido? Sex is better, but Jacking off is still good fun. Not to mention probably safer than taking some BS herb.
     
  13. Carcano Valued Senior Member

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    Lots of people consider their sex drive to be a bloody annoying time waster.

    Even Jesus speaks of those who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of their spiritual aspirations.

    And then there are some sex criminals who use a certain amino acid that eliminates the sexual force altogether. I think you need a prescription for that.
     
  14. darksidZz Valued Senior Member

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    It's Tuesday, it hasn't been that long since I posted last. The decrease in my libido is not clear however I did see Carolyn today. Although I was excited and turned on there was also something missing, it was a sexual tension or similar emotion. I was keen to mount her but aside from that I also felt calm, and less aggressive.

    We mustn't assume though this treatment works because it's only been a few days, when I have more info I will post. That little tidbit about not being as drawn in by a women should help you form some conclusions.
     
  15. billymunn Registered Member

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    Anxious to see your results

    I am among those for whom libido is more of a problem than an asset. I very much look forward to hearing of your results. As a never-married single with no prospects, I'd prefer not to be distracted by this...nuisance/drive...that greatly distracts me from my own "higher calling".
     
  16. darksidZz Valued Senior Member

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    I'll keep you informed.
     
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    OMG, please pleeeeeeeeeease tell me Carolyn is a human.
     
  18. orcot Valued Senior Member

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    the precenses of this threath makes me subconsiesness cross my leggs, darksidzz please read your own threaths to decrease your libido
     
  19. Carcano Valued Senior Member

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    BTW, all the sources Ive read indicate that Vitex must be taken on an empty stomach first thing in the morning.

    Apparently this is when the pituitary gland at the base of the brain is most sensitive to chemical stimulation???

    The pituitary is like the mastermind of the whole endocrine system. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pituitary_gland
     
  20. darksidZz Valued Senior Member

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    I've been reading about the herb I'm taking. It would seem this modifies the balance of hormones but without being a hormone itself. It will alter mens progesterone levels so they are higher, here's an article on what this homrone is http://www.yourlifesource.com/progesterone-for-men.htm

    Interesting..
     
  21. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    Darky, you get weirder by the minute.
     
  22. darksidZz Valued Senior Member

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    You think I'm weird huh? Look at what I just happened to find, it blew me away so many others feel the same way I do. This is amazing to find online, I never new or imagined it would exist!

    http://www.anaphrodisiac.com/why_anaphrodisiacs.html
    http://www.anaphrodisiac.com/our_anaphrodisiac_program.html

    I can hardly fathom or grasp what this means, but luckily my herb is on their list of ones which reduces sex drive. It's kinda crazy to think they made a whole mix of herbs just to decrease it but ehh

    Anyone interested either use Vitex or maybe try one of the herbs on the list here, it's completely beyond a holy grail cuz it lists all herbs known to reduce sex drive!
     
  23. darksidZz Valued Senior Member

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    I've edited some of the data but here it is in all its glory, partake my friends of the true anti-horney herbs!

    REDUCE OR ELIMINATE SEX DRIVE!

    Vitamin B6 (pyridoxine) is involved in more bodily functions than almost any other single nutrient. It affects both physical and mental health, and is necessary for the production of hydrochloric acid and the absorption of fats and protein. Pyridoxine also aids in maintaining sodium and potassium balance and promotes red blood cell formation. It is required by the nervous system for normal brain function, for the synthesis of RNA and DNA, which contain the genetic instructions for the reproduction of all cells and for normal cellular growth. It activates many enzymes and aids in the absorption of vitamin B12, in immune system function, and in antibody production. B6 is plays an important role in maintaining healthy mental and hormonal balance.

    GABA (gamma-aminobutyric acid) is required as an inhibitory neurotransmitter to block the transmission of an impulse from one cell to another in the central nervous system, which prevents over-firing of the nerve cells.

    It is also used for brain metabolism and to treat both epilepsy and hypertension where it is thought to induce tranquility in individuals who have a high activity of manic behavior and acute agitation.

    In combination with inositol and nicotinamide it helps with blocking anxiety and stress related impulses from reaching the motor centers of the brain.

    GABA can be used to calm a person, much like tranquilizers, but without the possibility of addiction.

    L-phenylalanine is a protein amino acid. It is classified as an essential amino acid because the body requires a dietary source of the amino acid to meet its physiological demands. L-phenylalanine is found in proteins of all life forms. Dietary sources of the amino acid are principally derived from animal and vegetable proteins.

    The mechanism of L-phenylalanine's putative antidepressant activity may be accounted for by its precursor role in the synthesis of the neurotransmitters norepinephrine and dopamine. Elevated brain norepinephrine and dopamine levels are thought to be associated with antidepressant effects.

    Vitex use suggests that it is an anaphrodisiac for men. Vitex (Chaste Berry) works mainly through the pituitary gland. Monks used the ground seeds to keep them from 'temptation.'

    Chaste tree berries, or Vitex, has the effect of stimulating and normalizing pituitary functions, especially its progesterone function. It may be called an amphoteric remedy, as it can produce apparently opposite effects, though in truth it is simply normalizing. It has for instance a reputation as an aphrodisiac and an anaphrodisiac! It will always enable what is appropriate to occur.

    L-tyrosine is a nonessential amino acid (protein building block) that the body synthesizes from phenylalanine, another amino acid. Tyrosine is important to the structure of almost all proteins in the body. It is also the precursor of several neurotransmitters, including L-dopa, dopamine, norepinephrine, and epinephrine.

    Dong Quai balances estrogen in the body. dong quai may stimulate the liver to process and excrete any excess estrogen and get hormones back into balance again. Dong Quai is one of the most popular herbs in the Orient, next to ginseng. While ginseng is recommended for men, dong quai is recommended for women for balancing and relief for many womens discomforts. It is not just for women however; it is a blood purifier, tonic and helps circulation for both male and female.

    Schizandra was discovered in 1958, Russian holistic doctor I.I. Brekhman and his colleague I.V. Dardymov coined the term "adaptogenic" to refer to any herb that "usually has a normalizing action irrespective of the direction of the pathological state." In other words, it doesn't matter whether you're too sleepy or too nervous; either way, schizandra will redirect you from an extreme to an ideal, balanced state. Schizandra also contains phytoestrogens. Herbalists outside of Asia regularly recommend Schizandra for the lungs, liver, and kidneys, and to use in connection with depression caused by adrenergic exhaustion.

    Marjoram was a fortifying oil used by the ancient Egyptians and the 1st Century Greek physician Dioscorides made an ointment called "amaricimum" to warm and strengthen the nerves. Eases muscles after exercise and an aid to peaceful sleep. The therapeutic properties of marjoram oil are analgesic, anti-spasmodic, anaphrodisiac, antiseptic, antiviral, bactericidal, carminative, cephalic, cordial, diaphoretic, digestive, diuretic, emmenagogue, expectorant, fungicidal, hypotensive, laxative, nervine, sedative, stomachic, vasodilator and vulnerary.

    Camphor has an ancient reputation as an anaphrodisiac, and its use in this respect was known to the Arabs (as may be seen by a reference to it in the Perfumed Garden).

    Hops is shown through modern research to relax and smooth muscles, especially that of the digestive tract. Hops are therefore used in combination with other herbs to treat such disorders as irritable bowel syndrome, Crohn's disease and nervous stomach. The ability of hops to relax and soothe is complemented by the antibacterial activity of components lupulone and humulone, which reduce inflammation, and the plant's overall bitter-tonic effect Thus hops can allay infection of the upper digestive tract which may play a significant role in provoking gastric and duodenal ulcers.

    Hops has oestrogenic principles, and accounts for its traditional anaphrodisiac effect in men.

    Little Hogweed contains more Omega-3 fatty acids than any other leafy vegetable plant we know of. According to Dr. Artemis P. Simopoulos, purslane is a good source of vitamin E, A and C and omega-3 fatty acids which help build cell membranes, especially of the brain and eyes, and reduce inflammation and blood pressure

    As a medicinal plant, it is considered to have antiscorbutic, diuretic and cooling properties. Being rich in mineral salts and with a high water content (95 percent) and mucilage content, it has emollient and soothing properties for irritations of the bladder and urinary tract. It is also used to regulate the bowels. Dioscorides already recognized its medicinal powers: these were anti-inflammatory (eyes) and analgesic (headache), emollient and soothing, antifebrifuge (in juice) and anthelmintic. He also says that "it reduces the desire to fornicate." In the latter sense, other authors also mention its anaphrodisiac powers (1837 Codex of the Spanish Pharmacopoeia), including this plant among the "four cold seeds", together with chicory, endive and lettuce. The anaphrodisiac effect is due to the presence of norepinephrine.

    The plant is antibacterial, antiscorbutic, depurative, diuretic and febrifuge. The leaves are a rich source of omega-3 fatty acids

    Ruta Graveolens Hyrtl mentions (loc. cit. ii, p. 94), rue (Ruta graveolens) was considered a sexual sedative by the monks of old, who on this account assiduously cultivated it in their cloister gardens to make vinum rutæ.

    Myrhh Gum, is a resin from certain trees found only in East Africa and Arabia. It has been used for centuries because of its aromatic and medicinal properties.

    Salix Nigra is the bark of the common Willow tree and has been known since antiquity for its pain-relieving and fever-reducing properties. In the early 19th century, a French chemist extracted the principal active ingredient from Willow Bark, and named it salicin. At the end of the century, Felix Hofmann, a chemist at the Bayer company in Germany, developed the world's most used medication - aspirin, or acetyl-salicylic acid. Willow, along with the herb Meadowsweet, is well known as the original source of salicylic acid ( the precursor to original aspirin ).

    King's American Dispensatory, 1898: "drank freely it proves a powerful anaphrodisiac, suppressing venereal desires for a long time. "

    Both Culpepper and Galen thought Willow to some extent a useful hepatic remedy in the treatment dandruff and skin blemishes. Culpepper states that Willow is an anaphrodisiac, a view latter confirmed by the Eclectics, who describe Willow as an important therapeutic agent in "libidinous suggestions and lascivious dreams terminating in pollutions." and in ".extreme forms of sexual perversion, satyriasis, erotomania, and nymphomania" (Felter and Lloyd 1893). For this purpose the Eclectics preferred a decoction of the catkins of Salix nigra. To this extent Willow was considered a helpful treatment in spermatorrhoea and in atonic states of the reproductive system, especially where those parts had suffered from recent 'overuse.'

    Licorice is used in traditional Chinese, Greek, and Indian medicine, mainly for respiratory and gastrointestinal problems.

    Licorice has a estrogenic effect, and is sometimes recommended for women with hormonal imbalances. Recent research studies suggest that ingestion of licorice root can significantly lower testosterone levels in men.

    Vietnamese Coriander is believed to be an anaphrodisiac, there is a history of Buddhist monks using it for this reason. The roots of the closely related Fo-ti, Polygonum multiflorum, are used in Chinese herbal medicine as a tonic and to stimulate hair growth, where it is often combined with other herbs, such as ginseng (panax sp.). Used in southeastern Asia against nausea, fever and to promote urination It is sometimes employed as an anaphrodisiac.

    Wild Lettuce is a valuable remedy for use in insomnia, restlessness and excitability (especially in children) and other manifestations of an over active nervous system. As an anti-spasmodic it can be used as part of a holistic treatment of whooping cough and dry irritated coughs in general. It will relieve colic pains in the intestines and uterus and so may be used in dysmennhorea. It will ease muscular pains related to rheumatism. It has been used as an anaphrodisiac. Very related with this property is the supposed anaphrodisiac values of this vegetable that grant this plant the property of appeasing the sexual appetite, property that was already stood out by Plini, a Roman savant whose scientific thoughts were unquestioned until Middle Ages.

    Winter Savory is amoung two common aromatic members of the mint family are Summer Savory and Winter Savory, and even though Summer Savory is highly regarded as a spice and a folk medicine, Winter Savory is a perennial garden favorite. For hundreds of years though, both Savories were used as sex drugs. The Summer variety was commonly used as an aphrodisiac, while the Winter Savory was thought to decrease the sex drive (anaphrodisiac). Summer Savory has antiseptic, expectorant, tonic, and astringent properties. Winter Savory is said to have some antiseptic, expectorant, and tonic qualities as well. This member of the mint family has narrow leaves and pale lavender, pink, or white flowers.

    Skullcap's primary properties are considered to be alterative, anaphrodisiac, anodyne, antibacterial, antispasmodic, astringent, bitter tonic, diuretic, febrifuge, nervine, sedative, and yin tonic. It's primary known constituents include lignan, tannin, essential oil, flavonoids ( scutellarin ), scutellonin, bitter ( scutellaine ) palmitic acid, stearic acid, linoleic acid, oleic acid, phenols, tannin, calcium, and B vitamins.

    Skullcap has a checkered history for pain relief. Some cultures strongly recommended it for the relief of headache and related pain, while other cultures overlooked this application entirely. Many physicians of the 19th Century used Skullcap with great reported success, to treat nervous diseases, convulsions, neuralgia, insomnia, restlessness and even tetanus. These uses continue to persist even today, but little scientific research has been carried out to understand Skullcap's true effects.

    The calming effect of scullcap has been attributed to scutellarin. The herb has been used for neuralgia, hiccoughs, insomnia and nervous disorders. Scullcap has shown an anti-acetylcholine and antihistamine effect on isolated guinea pig ileum, as well as inhibiting norepinepherine-induced contraction in guinea pig vas deferens. Heart rate has been shown to be reduced.

    A 70% methanol extract of the whole root of the species with flavonoid present showed anti-arthritic and anti-inflammatory action. It has been shown to inhibit arachidonates in rat leukocytes. This could have great significance for many inflammatory diseases.

    Okra Seeds (phytosterols) in okra produce an estrogen-like effect, and help to regulate hormonal fluctuations.

    Gossypium is folk medicine derived from the cotton plant have been in use for thousands of years. Cotton root bark is used as a male contraceptive in China, and its hormonal effects are used to treat irregular menstruation in women.
     
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