So is it too philsosophical to say that, what we consider matter, particles, wavelengths etc, could not exist in a singularity/would be annihilated because they need to have a quality of size ? What does the mathematical model predict ? Is matter converted to some state, continually compressed or returned to some quantum state ? I understand what you are saying about our models not being up to the job, but cant we use some of the available data to rule some possibilities out, for example, we can say that gravity is not annihilated in a black hole therefore a) There isnt a singularity or b) singularities have a property of gravity. Or are our mathematical models so inadequate that we simply cant relate these conditions to our understanding of energy ? I'm not being lazy, i will check these out myself as well !