It's in the wrong subforum. The denial of evolution is a social movement. Not a scientific one. Hence the subforum science and society would be better suited for this kind of debate. And what you mostly see is that this debate is approached wrongly. There is no point engaging in a 'scientific' discussion since there is none to start with. It would be more fruitful to actually grab the bull by the horns of truth and discuss the topic from a proper perspective. Trying to give scientific answers, which are mostly not even scientific but encyclopedic, merely gives merit to the cause of evolution denialism. That said, I am all for the original idea of refuting the claims of creationists. I do not agree with an approach that legitimizes the notion that we are dealing with a scientific discussion. It's a social movement people. Not science. All I see is a reluctance to accept this simple truth and discuss it openly.