Desire

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  1. Rowen Registered Senior Member

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    How can one become desireless when they have the desire to become desireless?


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  3. Adam §Þ@ç€ MØnk€¥ Registered Senior Member

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    Rowen

    Perhaps if that state is the path rather than the destination, it is not something to be reached, but something to do?
     
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  5. susan Registered Senior Member

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    I find

    some personal process in everything=

    with desire

    first I desire something
    than I desire to not desire it
    than I make plans to forget my desirous feeling, replace it
    with other feelings or thoughts
    then I forget my plan
     
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  7. stray dog Registered Senior Member

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    "I count him braver who overcomes his desires than him who
    conquers his enemies; for the hardest victory is the victory
    over self."

    Aristotle
    (384-322)

    Greek philosopher
     
  8. Empty Dragon Empty Registered Senior Member

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    Desire is related to ego. To despell desire you must despell the ego.

    Susan that technique seems kind of like escapisme too me. Correct me if you think I am wrong.
     
  9. susan Registered Senior Member

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    okay

    okay, maybe, but escapism is my life.
    that's been stated before.
     
  10. Empty Dragon Empty Registered Senior Member

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    Why live in escapisme? You are a truth seeker right? How will you ever advance if you keep on running?
     
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  11. Microzoft Registered Senior Member

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    Re: okay

    That is a logical and normal attitude. Not everyone was born a fighter right?
    Besides, I think it isn’t as much been an escapist or a fighter as it is learning from every single set of experiences.
    :m:
     
  12. wesmorris Nerd Overlord - we(s):1 of N Valued Senior Member

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    I'm pretty much a hedonist.. so I'm all like "hey! embrace that damn desire there!" (just make sure it's not toooo dangerous or negative or destructive or you know.. bad)
     
  13. Empty Dragon Empty Registered Senior Member

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    I guess the idea is that desire causes undo suffering of the mind as well as seperates yourself from your original nature.
     
  14. Microzoft Registered Senior Member

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    Couldn' it be that desire could be that extra motivation of the mind that without your full knowledge if offering your mind and body in the shortest path to fulfill it.

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  15. Rajagopals Registered Senior Member

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    If in the process of achieving yet another goal if a human being becomes desireless will it be considered desierless without having desires to become desireless ?

    Like HAMSOHAMSOHAMSOHAMSOHAMSOHAM leading to great good OHM
     
  16. Empty Dragon Empty Registered Senior Member

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    It seem to me that desire in its nature is unquenchable, and any fulfillment from desire is temporary.
     
  17. notme2000 The Art Of Fact Registered Senior Member

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    Acceptance is where it's at... But now I'm desiring acceptance... :bugeye:
     
  18. Empty Dragon Empty Registered Senior Member

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    To be with out effort with out being stagnant. Stillness in motion.

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  19. notme2000 The Art Of Fact Registered Senior Member

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    This is what you desire?
     
  20. Empty Dragon Empty Registered Senior Member

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    I desire to reach this state where there will no longer be desire because of fulfillment. To empty yourself is to become full.

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  21. notme2000 The Art Of Fact Registered Senior Member

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    This would involve no longer desiring fulfillment though, otherwise you'll never reach it.
     
  22. Empty Dragon Empty Registered Senior Member

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    I would agree.
     
  23. Voodoo Child Registered Senior Member

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    It is ok to desire stuff, trying to form a permanent self by attachment to the objects of desire is what is "undesirable". Basically, there are undesirable and desirable forms of desire, those that ignore the nature of reality(its impermanence) are undesirable.
     

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