Did God answer prayer for healing?

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Saint, Nov 9, 2020.

  1. Saint Valued Senior Member

    Some dead people are cremated into ashes, if Jesus can resurrect ashes into full human being, I will believe.
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  3. Archie Registered Senior Member

    Answer is yes. Next question.
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  5. Saint Valued Senior Member

    Let prove it, don't just talk.
    Can the skeleton in the tomb raised up?
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  7. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

    Whether you beleive or not you are still a part of Gods plan... an part of that plan is... those who refuse to believe on faith alone wont go to heaven.!!!
    Why dont you want to go to heaven.???
  8. Saint Valued Senior Member

    part of God's plan means we have no free will, we are living robots.
    robot has no responsibility of morality,
    evil or good make no sense,
    therefore God should be crucified to atone for sin.
  9. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

    Do you have free will... or are you a robot.???
  10. Dicart Registered Senior Member

    The Creator do what "he" want, you can not states what The Creator will do, because The Creator has free will.
    You have free will too and in such you have been created like The Creator.

    Now, for the "what is The Creator doing in most cases" :
    You can pray for healing "others".
    You know other need to be healed (or do you think you are the firts sick man on earth ?), but you dont care about.
    Now you are sick and you care about yourself.
    We name this egoismus.

    It means that he live in hell.
    Our univers is a sort of hell.
    So, why would the creator have sent you hell if he change hell to heaven ?
    Hell will have some propoerties, that cant be changed (you can do whatever you want it will always return to his primal state).
    In hell you suffer.

    He's right.
    You can be saved from hell (you can go to much more hellish places as earth) by Jesus Christ.
    He went to hell with full power (here on earth ...) and explained us what we need to know to be saved.
    He dident change hell (altougth he had full power, Satan was tempting gim in the desert, saying he could give him the beautifull town etc, but he refused).
    He let killed himself without fighting back.
    He was great , not by his power but because he acted as he would have no power, a weak man, a poor man.
    The creator raise the feeble.

    If you act like Jesus, you will see by yourself "strange thinks" that science can't explain, the so called miracles.
    If you have never seen miracles you are probably wrong in your behaviour (so let change it).
  11. Dicart Registered Senior Member

    In my opinion, supernatural exist.
    But it doesn't mean that The Creator exist or not exist.

    Natural or supernatural, both have the ability to let us consider the question : Is there a creator ?
  12. Dicart Registered Senior Member

    Probably it is Gods problem if you suffer because God has send Jesus to help us.

    Jesus has helped us, by teaching us to help others and to not care about ourselves.
    It is like the captain of a wrecked ship, he doesent leave the ship until everyone is saved.
    This is why he is the captain...
    Think in term of relation, not in term of causality.
    You do not help others to gain something (you are not dealing with Satan, do you ?), but you like to be like Jesus was. So you are the captain (and the Holly Spirit is with you) .
    So help your enemy too.
  13. Dicart Registered Senior Member

    Matter is Satan.
  14. Dicart Registered Senior Member

    If God speaks to you, you become his servant, because you are his servant God speaks to you.
    You can not deny anything God say to you, if God say to you the earth is flat, you know it is the truth and the earth is effectivly flat (but we know it isnt).

    Nothing can be unfair because God has stated was is fair and God is fair.
    You think you can do something unfair but is is only an illusion, for every act there is a reaction that couteract the act.

    Look, God love the fishes like He loves the birds, thats why fishes are living in water and birds are living out of the water (and some birds can plunge into the water too...)
    It would be cruel to make the fish living outside water.

    Do you think you could live in heaven very long where reaction is much more closer to action ?
    So is earth a good place for us, we dont die immediatly for our sins.
  15. Dicart Registered Senior Member

    Adam is "the container" of all humanity, the origin of all human spirit.
    Yourself are a part of Adam, because matter limits the expression of the whole spirit to one soul.
    Matter do not create spirit, it restrain the possibility of the spirit to express himself.
  16. Dicart Registered Senior Member

    Thats untruth.
    You think that because you, part of Adam, actualy live here in this broken part of heaven, but you would not say that if you would live as complete Adam in heaven.
    Thats the story, a heaven, a broken heaven.
    All the states exists : Thats why Jesus say that his realm is already up (the story is already fullfiled)

    Furthermore, you can not think properly in a rationnal matter.
    There are two ways to understand the world.
    By contradiction :
    You know there is a wall because you can't pass thrue.
    You know you dont have to do those things because you suffer.
    You know light because you can compare it to darkness.
    By adhesion :
    You know it, so simple, because you are not in contradiction with God.

    You can not see/hear God if you think with the contradiction way.
    If God speak to you , you know it is the truth and you know it is God, there is no possible doubt (if there is even a little doubt, then it is just that your crazy and are speaking to yourself).
  17. Dicart Registered Senior Member

    Why should God care about if you believe right now in him or not ?

    Furthermore, if you want God to send you a proof of existence so as you can believe in God, your believe is weak, and you are doing a deal.
    Only Satan make deals, he looks forward with one eye, from past to futur, in term of causality.
    But God have two eyes, past and futur are linked, there is no causality, so no deal possible.
    Per example : Someone attack you and he will kill you (thats what you think) so you defend yourself and you kill the agressor first altought you know you should not kill.
    You think, its his fault if he died, he should not attack me.
    Your wrong, God see the linkage for this portion of time. You killed him, thats why the agressor could have kill you (your are not better than your agressor and you dont respect the commands).
    If you would not have defend yourself, the agressor could not have kill you because God would have send and Angel to protect you....and this fact is hidden by God himself, but not for those who have experienced by themselves "the miracle" and can remember it.

    I can not and not want to proove anything i write here.

    Perhaps it is all bullshit.

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  18. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

    No "perhaps" about it.
  19. kx000 Valued Senior Member

    Because he so loved the world, but you can’t blame someone else for your own short commings.
  20. Saint Valued Senior Member

    Not true, Jesus appeared to disciples as proof of his resurrection,
    evidence is basic principle of belief.
  21. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

    oK look... just between me an you... of course you'r right... beleif wit-out evidence is Bull-Sht... you know it i know it lots of people know it... but for the sake of the fragile many who cant handle the truth... we just act like we respect ther ignorance/stoopidity an let 'em be as long as they dont try an harm others.!!!
  22. Dicart Registered Senior Member

    I dont think Jesus appeared to his disciples so as to prove something.
    He came to give them instructions.
  23. Dicart Registered Senior Member

    If everybody were sure there is God and that He is almighty, many would accept the commands for bad reasons :
    Because they fear God.
    Because they want a reward.

    Therefore, if nobody is sure because there is no proof, they are more likely to do things because it is how they are.

    Per example :
    The master of a domain leave his servants because of travel.
    By the time, some of the servants started right now to work at the domain, but others started just before the master came back.
    The master as he came back payed anyone who has worked with the same amount.
    The servants that have worked right after the master went, said : It is unfair, i worked more, i should be payed more.
    The master answer : What, you worked only for reward ? You should not even be payed !

    If you want to work, do it willingly, you already have your reward; it is the happyness you receive by serving your master.

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