Did Jesus exist?

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Dinosaur, Feb 19, 2018.

  1. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 70 years old Valued Senior Member

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    Funny thing that

    I understood god created the devil

    Why isn't god like Harry Truman with a sign on his desk

    The Buck Stops Here

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      the responsibility for something cannot or should not be passed to someone else.
      "in the past you could spread the blame, but now the buck stops here"
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    In the case of god surely there is no (or with someone)?

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  3. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    If we glean even a little truth from an idea, does it have at least a little value?
     
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  5. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    GS, you operate in a world of absolutes. I was much like you at one time.
     
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  7. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 70 years old Valued Senior Member

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    I contend some ideas are like hypothetical negative matter

    Read about the idea and your brain decreases in its IQ

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  8. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    Non sequiturs to cover up your inability to produce a coherent answer, check that box. One away from bingo.
     
  9. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    If ideas were simply one dimensional, that might be true, but they are usually more complex than the above statement.
     
  10. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    There is some value in secular wisdom, but when presented in the context of promoting a supernatural worldview, it's value is debatable. I'm in favor of treating the Bible as the collected stories and myths of ancient Jews.
     
  11. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    I think it is much more than that, as is most everything we do.
     
  12. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    More how? It's supernatural claims can't be confirmed, so it's just the collected and often contradictory sayings of some old time Jews.
     
  13. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    Because that's all you see when you look at it.
     
  14. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    You know, saying we're wrong isn't the same thing as saying you're right. But then you're not right, so you can't say that. Doesn't leave you much.
     
  15. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    It's not a matter of being "right" or "wrong." Rather than confront an idea, maybe we should face it as a possible alternative. We might learn something about our self and others by doing so.
     
  16. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    You sound like a random excuse generator.
     
  17. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    I did acknowledge that it contained wisdom, but that it's wisdom is independent of supernatural claims. I think I'm being generous. At worst, it's a guide to justify doing horrible shit in the name of god. As an endorsement of slavery, misogyny, homophobia, and witch-burning, it's hardly a moral guide.
     
  18. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    Don't forget genocide, child abuse, etc.
     
  19. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    I suppose that depends on your perspective of life and how you view yourself in relationship to it.
     
  20. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    We might need crucify you for our sins, GS.
     
  21. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, I'm blessed with reason and skeptical of phoney baloney.
     
  22. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    "Act only according to that maxim whereby you can, at the same time, will that it should become a universal law."
     
  23. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    That's your go-to after 2,000 years, why change now.
     

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