Do atheists indocrinate their children into their belief system?

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  1. Varda The Bug Lady Valued Senior Member

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    I'm sorry, but that doesn't work

    what is good for some is not good for others

    think about indoctrinating people to believe that it's good for them to blow themselves up in a bus stop full of bypassers, because that'll make them go to heaven

    is that good?
     
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  3. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    It's horrible to you because of your own subjective ideas. To those priests it is not horrible, it's good.
    Now what ?
     
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  5. VitalOne Banned Banned

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    Not from my subjective viewpoint
     
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  7. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Is that why the LTTE does it? They are Marxists and they are teh ones who started it.
     
  8. VitalOne Banned Banned

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    Right.......................but those priests are deluded into believing fantasy over reality

    What is good by my definition is that which is beneficial

    Clearly doing that to a kid is not beneficial by any OBJECTIVE means...
     
  9. Varda The Bug Lady Valued Senior Member

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    irrelevant

    we're not discussing religion, we're discussing indoctrination
     
  10. Varda The Bug Lady Valued Senior Member

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    that's why indoctrination is bad
     
  11. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    LTTE and Marxism doesn't have issues of indoctrination?
     
  12. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Exactly..

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    So we all better do what you say because you define what is good ?

    What is.. ?
     
  13. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    They have seventeen year olds doing it and they are atheists. What kind of indoctrination are they using?

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  14. VitalOne Banned Banned

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    No, you only showed a few RADICAL forms of indoctrination thats bad

    I'm talking about indonctrinating someone not to steal, lie, cheat, kill, etc...

    Would you consider that bad?
     
  15. VitalOne Banned Banned

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    In this case yeah, A LOT better

    What you described...
     
  16. Varda The Bug Lady Valued Senior Member

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    have you read the thread?
     
  17. Varda The Bug Lady Valued Senior Member

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    have you, also, read the thread?

    did you see that bit where I said it's not a matter of religion, it is a matter of conviction?
     
  18. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Ok God..

    What is objectively beneficial in this context ?
     
  19. Varda The Bug Lady Valued Senior Member

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    i think that teaching morals is very desirable
    indoctrination though, is bad
     
  20. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    is it a matter of going of heaven though?

    What is the conviction they have?

     
  21. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    how do you propose to teach morals without indoctrination?

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  22. Varda The Bug Lady Valued Senior Member

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    sam, pay attention
    at the point i cited that as an example, we were discussing subjective forms of good

    probably hate
     
  23. Varda The Bug Lady Valued Senior Member

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    children are not stupid
    you can teach them by making them understand that things that they don't want for themselves shouldn't be done to others
    and more important, you teach them by giving your own example

    not by brainwashing them
     

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