Do Police have a right to Murder?

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by ElectricFetus, Feb 8, 2017.

  1. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    I'm quoting someone else goal, if I said "and they want to send all the nigger back to Africa" I'm speaking of their ideal to the words they use. It is irrelevant: I show plenty of police that do their job heroically in the videos above, but pigs that fuck up and get no punishment is the problem. If they are not slaughtered, peoples trust in police will further degrade, increasing crime and civil tensions, increasing riots and destruction.
     
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  3. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    You call cops "pigs" and hope they are slaughtered. Some people call blacks "niggers" and hope they are lynched. (Only the bad ones of course.)

    Same same.
     
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  5. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Irrelevant, back to the argument at hand, that being police are given too much leeway in the authority and that leads to piggery.

    Do you disagree with cameras on police? Do you disagree with stricter laws and regulations limited their conducts such that when they do piggish things they get punished?
     
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  7. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Glad you are getting uncomfortable. That's the first step to introspection.
    Nope, provided they are used under restrictions to protect privacy.
    No problem with regulations on what police can or can't do. Big problem with calling people "piggish" (or "niggerish" or "kike-ish")
     
  8. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Your grossly missinterpreted my words then.

    And that is utterly irrelevant. I'm not a sjw that gives a fuck about derogatory words, when pigs behave better I will stop calling them pigs.
     
  9. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    So you'd be OK with everyone here calling you a racist asshole, because that's irrelevant? You think that would work well in terms of improving any problems we have here?

    Treat others how you want yourself to be treated.
     
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  10. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Been called worse here, ask Tiassa, Tiassa thinks I'm pure evil at this point.

    Don't think it matters, irrelevant, we are here on a internet forum just arguing about policy we will never get to implement ourselves. This is purely a thought experiment,

    If I fuck up, I expect to be punished for it, unlike the police, the ones that are pigs that is.
     
  11. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    I disagree. I moderate other forums, and there is a difference in the discussion based on whether people call each other names or not.
    I didn't say anything about punishment. I said treat others how you want to be treated.
     
  12. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Don't care.

    I'm not a police officer.

    You have, not I, change the subject to how offended you are are calling police pigs, are you and SJW?
     
  13. river Valued Senior Member

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    Respect for Humanity is clearly lacking .

    Nobody has the right to murder anyone .
     
  14. river Valued Senior Member

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    The authority , the street , have become harden souls .
     
  15. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    I'd say it's becoming that way, but I'd like to think there are still ''good'' police officers out there who would not abuse their position. I think that's the question really...are cops using their position to abuse others, to abuse the law? To that I'd say, yes, that trend seems to be growing.
     
  16. Syne Sine qua non Valued Senior Member

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    1) Support that claim. Demonstrate this supposed positive correlation.
    2) Support that claim. Demonstrate this supposed positive correlation.

    You mean a "decent minded and informed observer" not under the same pressure of threat, but only playing armchair quarterback?
    There are legal procedures and criteria for a "good shoot" and perpetrators of "bad shoots" are routinely prosecuted.

    Media narrative just emphasizes the latter over the former.
     
  17. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Exactly.
    Well that's what brings up the question, isn't it.

    Are there, and are they; and in all significant relevant circumstances, do they align with the moral or ethical assessment "that was murder", in the US?
     
  18. Syne Sine qua non Valued Senior Member

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    Faulty comparison.
    Unless you can demonstrate otherwise.

    What, still not interested in supporting your own claims:
     
  19. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Agreed. And fortunately, the vast majority of them are good.
     
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  20. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    And now that we have all agreed on that, back to the topic?
     
  21. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    I have no idea what an SJW is. But no worry, I'll do it your way.

    I have no problem with police killing all the violent, murderous criminals they want. The more the better, I say.
     
  22. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    It is the killing of non-violent normal people that the problem, it is the killing of children holding toy guns that is the the problem, it is the beating of homeless men on the street to death that is the problem, these actions, by PIGS degrades public trust in police, that being one of the foundations of our civilization, this increases the rate of riots and protest that cause destruction and death and at the very least cost cities millions of dollars that the tax payers have to fork out while the PIGS get at best a slap on the wrist.

    Tell me did this man deserve to die?



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Kelly_Thomas
     
  23. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Cops should get medals for shooting and killing all the violent, murderous criminals they want. And hefty bonuses, so they are incentivized to kill more.
     

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