Do Words Equal Violence?

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by Bowser, Apr 2, 2017.

  1. Bowser Life is Fatal. Valued Senior Member

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    I tolerate any other viewpoint, but I reserve the right to mock it and disagree. There seems to be a puritan perspective on the left that can't tolerate such things, to the point that they are willing to conflate speech with violence. Anyway, I've been reading your posts and like your take on who truly owns the Trump presidency.
     
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  3. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    See Tiassa, I and hitler here both agree, we both think smoking is bad, ergo I must also be hitler.

    As for who truly owns the trump presidency, that would be Jared Kushner, Steve Bannon is practically being run out.
     
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  5. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Not really. Maybe you are too young to remember.

    And it goes back farther yet. The alt right used to call itself the White Citizens Council, the John Birch Society, names like that. They had a lot of presence in government. They had J Edgar Hoover. They had Joseph McCarthy - very famous, very public. But I figure around thirty years ago it started to take over the language - frame the public discourse. You could argue 50, when Nixon went national, but something changed in air when Clinton beat the incumbent Bush, in 1992. Things got a level uglier, at least among white people.

    Radio was bigger then, and Rush was just the most famous of the many alt-right shows, meanwhile Newt Gingrich was flogging the Contract With America, the Clinton Hate was in full swing, Roger Ailes was an executive at CNBC (and a lot of the other early Fox swine were getting air time on the other stations), the nutjobs were talking about black helicopters, you had Waco and Tim McVeigh and the Unabomber Manifesto and so forth.

    Andrew Breitbart was learning his trade at the feet of Matt Drudge, working for the Drudge Report, in 1995. That was the year the Fox News website was launched (predated the TV).

    Same basic faction, doing it's thing all over town, in your face all day every day, like now. An entire American demographic, flunking Citizenship 101 and losing their minds facing the consequences, for 25, 30 years now.
     
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  7. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Who is president right now? = your wrong.
     
  8. wellwisher Banned Banned

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    Trump is his own man. He is secure, in who he is. This is why he is not afraid to leave the reservation, with his Tweets. Trump thinks on his feet, reacts to the situation at hand and likes to be surrounded by people with strong opinions, all over the spectrum, including Democrats like is son-in-law, Jared Kushner. He processes that diverse information to come to his own conclusions. Unlike Obama or Hillary who will surround himself with birds of a feather, Trump is far more flexible since he seeks the best deals, which he has learned can be found everywhere, and not all in one place.

    The smartest people are the most adaptable. They don't need to force a narrow way, to create the illusion of adaptability, in an orchid house. They can go outside the box and still find ways to adapt. Life is about the unexpected, and Trump is good at that, because he can process diverse opinions and evolve.
     
  9. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    Click to walk out that door.

    Thank you for that.

    No, seriously, you go out of your way to pointlessly throw in with Hitler and everyone else gets to chuckle and say: This moment with Godwin was brought to you by, well, a freaking wannabe Nazi.

    So, yeah: Look, dude, you're a Nazi. You've nothing to say.

    I mean―

    ―seriously―

    ―priorities, priorities.

    Good show. A wannabe Nazi gardener like that one, no one can replace.

    Some gardens should remain empty. Even the Mona Lisas and Mad Hatters are capable of figuring that out.

    Then again, what are we to think of, well, this? Quite clearly you do care what I think of you. (No, really, you can't "break" me without paying at least some attention to what I think.) But we also get even that's a ruse. (After all, you keep telling us you don't care while simultaneously trying to tell us what you want us to think of you.) And no, I don't think you're lying when you go out of your way to posture yourself alongside Adolf Hitler. (At least that's consistent with your behavior, unlike trying to posture your attitude and ignorance as some manner of liberal.)
     
  10. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    or or, and just hear me out here: he is an impulsive idiot that you are just deluting your self into think is a genius.
     
  11. Bowser Life is Fatal. Valued Senior Member

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  12. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah for nepotism!
     
  13. Bowser Life is Fatal. Valued Senior Member

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    Shame on anyone who doesn't follow the rules of the house.
     

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