Thank you very much! I do agree with a lot of what you said. I just look around at our other achievements and can't quite understand how we can't get free of the God crutch just yet. Religious values are just very simplified versions of common sense advice. Don't sleep around because people who do tend to catch something awful. Don't kill or steal because others don't like people who do that and you'll end up with your head on a pike. Don't lie because catching a liar causes paranoia among the masses and we all know what humans do when paranoid... we end up with heads on pikes again. Jews not eating pork, makes sense, people were getting sick. But aren't we at a point yet that we can peel away the fantasy from the logic and open a "church" of common sense? Where people who enjoy socializing with people of like minded values can get together to persue prosperity? I guess technically we can (hehe actually I've been wanting to start one for some time. I wanted to call it The People's Fellowship of Good Will and Better Popcorn Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! hehe). I would love to see the majority come away from the hysteria of religion. And then there's the whole God gene thing. A predisposition to this kind of behavior could have been a very necessary part of our evolution, critical to our survival. Which is fine. I'm a rehabilitated "believer" of some pretty extreme things myself. The question is, do we still need it? When will we grow out of it? Because for me, for productivity, relationships, morality, and general prosperity, religion-free logic and objectivity has been a "God send" Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!