As with a dream, the mind creates it's own environment. It can even create its own company: lastnight I was working in a warehouse and talking with people I never before knew. The night before I was sharing an apartment with my cousins.
quite simple you are communicating your thoughts by way of a question to another. your private sphere of existence reaches out to the public one. by doing so you have implicitly accepted the notion that the other exists independent of yourself. if all that exists are your thoughts, why then even bother to think? or place yourself in a 9-5 routine rather than a ruler of a kingdom? with harem? wait! you are a baron! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Again, we are talking concepts, not any proven reality other than the fact that an individual's experience of life is dependent on that individual's mind. Why did I dream myself working in a warehouse lastnight? I dunno. It was better than others I have had, but not as pleasant as still others. Life would be pretty lonely if we didn't accept the concept that others exist. Nonetheless, the experience of others is also mind. There can be no seperation.
One does that in dreams, too, so what's the difference? And how can you tell the difference? And really, it would seem that you've never, ever had a vivid dream? Is that true? Because many people dream quite realistically, life-like dreams that can be actually frighteningly real. Why not? Perhaps for "adventure", like reading a novel. Perhaps just to keep your mind occupied. Perhaps just for fun. But most importantly, ...why not? Yeah? ...and? What does that have to do with anything? Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Baron Max
bowser ahh experience is dependant on the mind. have you have postulated the independant existence of something that your reality requires to come into being? explain the mind. is it the brain which resides in a human? or is it a thought conjured up by the "i"? if so, why is the experiencer dependant on it? if you make your reality, what makes you choose that particular one? a reality with loneliness, hunger...etc why, of all possible realities, do you choose one that i, gustav have also chosen? i rather be parsimonious in my speculation. performing mental gymnastics in order to deny the existence of other independant realities is an exercise in incoherence. unless of course, i am just stupid Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Gustav, I have no idea what the hell your last post is all about???? Or is it just a bunch of words so as to confuse me so I quit posting on this topic? As I see it, ye're asking me "why" when no one else on Earth knows ...yet you seem to think that you know. How is that? Philosophers have been discussing this topic since the beginning of time and have reached no consensus, ...yet you seem to know it all. How? Have you explained it all to the other philosophers yet? Baron Max
Better get to killing then, 'cause there's a helluva lot of "philosophers" out there and I'd guess that ye're gonna' be damned busy killin' 'em all .....perhaps so busy killing that you won't even have time to rule anything. Baron Max
If we wouldn't be aware, we'd be long dead. A tentative definition of awareness would be "Awareness is the knowing that phenomena exist. Not how they exist or what they are, just that they are." The more problematic issue is concerning what is it that we are aware of. Sure, all of us are aware, but of what? We might so easily be aware of the things surrounding us, the table, the chair, the computer, etc. that we forget that we are aware of them. On the other hand, there are things present in our mind which we are hardly aware of -- like our intentions, habits, responses, reactions. One can't just sit there and "be aware", in and of itself. One is always aware *of something*. What that is -- this is what I think is worth exploring.
Gustav I can conclude that the exerience of life is not possible without such a concept. Externalism or internalism? I haven't that answer for you. However, as for the later, The mind seems to require dualism as content for experience. I have denied nothing. I wanted to show that the mind has the ability to create--even other individuals if it so chooses. If we were to render these ideas into a shared reality, then we are nothing more than a thought in the others mind. What you do while there is your choice. Water Hmm, that would be mind. The bigger question is awareness, the focus that moves from one experience to another.
whether intrenal or external, subjective or objective, Awareness is the Identification of Experience.
let theeee artist in the housespeaaak...hehe when yu gaze at an object, be it a curtain, stone, bit of patterned wallpaper, material, Tree...etcetc, and give space for your observation, you awareness opens up ...you begin to relax and see pattern where yo hadn't seen it before, line, tone, light, dark, etc when you listen and give space, your awarenessopens up, and you begin hearing things you had't been aware of previus.... same wit touch, feelings etc IF you take a pinch ofpsychedelic all of this becomes even MOREintense and opened up, going into ecstatic realms~~~~~ many many people--bless em--walk around in a dull dull haze. propabably mostly only beingaware of problems and time runnin out
Sure, but how do you know that your mind didn't just dream her up? ...just like ye're doing with me typiing this message? One says, "I'm aware of ...", but what does that mean? And what makes one think that that something isn't just part of your mind's imagination? Making the statement "I'm aware of..." isn't any kind of proof of anything ...it's just a statement. And to use THAT possibly erroneous statement on which to build any sort of theory is like building a home on quicksand. Gustav, you say ye're aware of Water ...but how can you be so sure that she's just not part of another dream ye're having? Baron Max
Because if Water were merely a figment of Gustav's imagination, then Water would be mightily upset, as she hasn't been granted independent existence!! Now here's a thought ...
how dare you post without your creator's permission woman! how dare you! ps: post bikini pic before i snuff you out of existence
But, Gustav, you seem to have the mistake idea that you actually control the dreams that happen in your mind. You can't/don't ...your mind simply dreams up all of this so you can enjoy a diversionary "adventure". I don't know about yours, but I have a few nice visions of Water in a bikini. And she's lovely and with cute, small, firm breasts and a narrow waist with smoothly flaring hips. Ooooh, golly! ;=) But see, that's just the Baron Max that you've dreamed up all in your little mind ...none of it is "real" 'cause there ain't no such thing as "real". Baron Max