Discussion in 'Astronomy, Exobiology, & Cosmology' started by Saint, Nov 9, 2020.
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I agree it is a philosophical question phrased to fit hard science
Without light there is only nothingness
Time is a heuristic man made concept
I believe all time and space exists because we are surrounded by an iron shell that is occasionally breached by heavier elements
The universe exists from nothingness.
The Will of God creates it from nothing.
They might be your beliefs, but given that this is in the science section, you'll need to support them to have them taken seriously.
Scientists agree that the bing bang is from a point.
A point basically is nothing.
There are many different understandings of what that particular "nothing" might be. Lawrence Krauss has one understanding in his book "A universe from nothing", for example, while others would say that even his version of "nothing" is still something, and thus not truly "nothing" etc. So your statement starts to get into realms of philosophy, metaphysics etc, which is where knowledge ceases and opinions take over.
As soon as you then start trying to add a reason (the "why") to the "what" of something happening, you wander even further from science.
if thew is no why, there is no how.
Why would a god have more success creating something from nothing than any other natural creative process?
And then there is the question if God was created from nothing. How would that have worked?
maybe we need to wait until we die, our life transformed into spiritual form, then we can understand.
And what would you use to "understand"?
Because it was necessary.
Human has limitation, our 5 sensory organs is not omnipotent.
What created God from nothing?
who created 1+1=2?
1 + 1 = 2 is a human symbolic representation of an axiomatic logical function.
It was not created but discovered and codified into human symbolic mathematics.
Input (value(s) --> Function (mathematical process) --> Output (new value)
so 1+1=2 exists eternally regardless of human beings.
Well, yes, but of course not in that exact representative form.
Numbers are human invented symbolic representations of oberved values and patterns of values.
The way I process this concept, is that "numbers" are representative of abstract universal algebraic "values" and that all physical objects have certain inherent values or potentials as "individuals" or as "sets" of individuals.
Perhaps a little like Platonic solids being symbolic representations of abstract 3 dimensional geometric "patterns".
I believe that all of human science relies on symbolic definitions of these universal abstractions and their relational interactions.
The beauty is that human symbolic mathematics seems to be sufficient for humans to make sense of the observed physical world.
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