Does space bend In a pure vacuum ?

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  1. river

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    Define then pad ; what a scientific theory actually is .
     
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  3. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    You have been informed of that at least a 100 times by me and others. You are either being totally obtuse, playing the troll, or being dishonest. I'm not biting, but hey, google is your friend and will certainly give you the answer....again!
     
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  5. river

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    Any true scientist , theorist , knows what a theory is , pad .
     
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  7. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    All you have is an unsupported pseudoscientific hypothesis, nothing more, nothing less.
    And when science speaks of theory, they speak of a scientific theory, which you do not have...not your everyday theory used in everyday speak.
     
  8. river

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    Evolution of thinking .
     
  9. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    See Albert Einstein, Neils Bohr, Hans Bethe, Richard Feynman, Lawrence Krauss, Sean Carroll,
     
  10. river

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    19th century thinking .

    This is 2020 .
     
  11. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Please post your explanation, or provide an appropriate link to where we can see the relevant theory and explanation.
     
  12. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Yep as are Krauss and Carroll 21st century physicists.
    I was simply showing the progress in the thinking which you raised...all mentioned progressed science to large degrees and are still doing so in some cases.
    And of course river, I will refer you to the great orginizations such as the LHC and Cern, NASA, CSIRO, ESA, VIRGO, LIGO etc etc etc etc for examples of incredible forward and enlightening thinking...the discovery of gravitational waves and further certainty of BH's with a photo are examples of such thinking.
     
  13. river

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    Terrific Organizations , are better than great organizations .

    Gravitational waves ;

    Disagree

    These Gravitational waves are moving away from the object of source , not inward .

    Which means these waves are travelling AWAY from the source .
     
  14. river

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    Why ?

    What is rational about what you stated ( highlighted ) .
     
  15. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Because the BB was the evolution of space and time, as we know them...matter came later, as has been explained to you many times, including your most recent trolling effort, re the Superforce.

    "That's because there was no space to expand through at the beginning of time. Rather, physicists believe the Big Bang created and stretched space itself, expanding the universe. As the early universe cooled, the matter produced in the Big Bang gathered into stars and galaxies".

    Origins: CERN: Ideas: The Big Bang | Exploratorium
     
  16. river

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    How does space and time evolve without energy nor matter ?
     
  17. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    It evolved without matter in the first instant, as you have been informed many times..Matter "condensed"out of excesses of energy with phase transitions and false vacuums, as the superforce decoupled, as you have been told many times.
    Why did space and time evolve at the BB? We don't know as you have been told many times.
     
  18. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Seems play time has finished for river.

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    Until next time!!
     
  19. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    @ river,
    Is it your view that there always existed physical "irreducible complexity"?
     
  20. river

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    Define , " irreducible complexity " .

    No , if I understand the definition of " irreducible " given to me , in my dictionary .
     
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  21. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    OK. If you do not believe in irreducible complexity, then all of existence is reducible to a singularity from which 3 fundamental mathematical (energetic quanta) patterns, from which all matter is constructed, via the 4 fundamental physical forces (mathematical functions).
     
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  22. river

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    What came first , matter or the mathematical patterns ?
     
  23. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    A mathematical singularity. The most basic form of existence. Remember, no irreducible complexity.
     

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