Does the Universe have consciousness?

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by hansda, Nov 10, 2012.

  1. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    A Know. Mind is not Know. Mind Knows.
     
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  3. hansda Valued Senior Member

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    Mind knows from consciousness or memory.
     
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  5. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    Mind knows because he had been minded there when Science, and Know came strolling down the gentle path of 'God.'
     
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  7. river

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    I think so
     
  8. Votorx Still egotistic... Valued Senior Member

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    Yes that would be the point I was making from the quote you chose to respond to.

    I did not mean to imply that I was atheist. I would like it if you took my posts as literal as possible from now on. Unless I make a statement along the lines of "I believe" or "My belief is" then you may assume that what I'm saying is speculation.

    I'm sure it's nice to be so certain, but while it's still possible that we may not, then I choose to entertain the possibility that we are not.

    I wouldn't know nor have I claimed to...but as I observe my peers and imagine what goes through their minds, far too often it seems that no thought occurs at all. Simple regurgitation of lessons learned, conditioned responses, socially mundane behaviors. She acts like him who acts like her, possessing little if any creativity, innovation or individuality. Of course that's not always the case but it seems pretty common. I've had my fair share of original ideas, but who's to say it isn't some kind of complex algorithm that takes past experiences and form patterns?

    All of our advancements stack on top of each other. As Newton said "If I have seen farther it is by standing upon the shoulders of giants". The greatest minds of our history could not have made their discoveries had they not worked upon past endeavors. Don't get me wrong, the evidence that we are conscious is very strong...but I refuse to commit to the idea that consciousness is something separate of the universe. Unless we can find some kind of component of matter that makes free will possible, then I have to assume that consciousness is no more no less than the same particle interaction and physical law that occurs within a glass of water. If that's the case, and it can be fully explained and reduced to particle interactions, then I'd say the reality we experience loses all of it's mysticism.
     
  9. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    Free will is a man. His source is safe in Heaven, you CAN NOT TOUCH. Love, perfection, pacifism, etc are all safe in Heaven.

    In all righteousness I need to capitalize Love, Perfection, and Pacifism as they are names. They are God's, big G, all of them. Its a title. Don't chase after the source of our emotions, just talk to Faith.

    EDIT: Maybe the big G is for Love.
     
  10. hansda Valued Senior Member

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    So, Universe has its own consciousness, its own mind and the universe itself.


    Where is Heaven? Is it somewhere in the Universe or beyond Universe?


    What you think of the consciousness of a living being? Is it same as the body of the living being or something different?

    Do you mean that consciousness generates from particle interaction?

    Consciousness itself is mystic and it can exhibit free-will, whereas particles can not exhibit free-will; at the most they can exhibit fixed-will which can be considered their inertial property.
     
  11. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    Heaven is safe in the midst of all things, the universe.
     
  12. river

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    But how are you safe?

    What philosophy of religion keeps you safe?
     
  13. quantum_wave Contemplating the "as yet" unknown Valued Senior Member

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    It is funny how that brings to mind the four squares of faith in God.

    Square 1: There is a God: you believe in God
    Square 2: There is no God: you believe in God
    Square 3: There is no God: you do not believe in God
    Square 4: There is a God: you do not believe in God

    Square 1: You at least sort out on the right side of God's list.
    Square 2: : You at least had your bases covered, just in case.
    Square 3: You got it right but you were frowned upon by those in squares 1 & 2
    Square 4: You are placed at the end of the line for wings and fluffy clouds.
     
  14. Rav Valued Senior Member

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    This thread has become a travesty of philosophical inquiry. There's barely a trace of coherent, rational discussion to be found in any of these most recent exchanges.

    Don't you people realize that kx000 is stoned half the time? Or is this all happening because everyone else is stoned as well? Either way, it's all complete nonsense.
     
  15. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    Inside of all you will find consciousness, mind, and a setting.

    Its protected by our Heart.

    It must be coded in our brain muscle to receive from the source, safe in Heaven.

    I think Love grew up, our ancestor, then he was perfect. That would give us a mother and father to produce all. The two most simple, yet powerful things and we absolutely know this about these two. THIS MUST BE IT.

    I think they are expressing their free-will, in fact, I know it. They are there for us, get up to snuff on your emotions.
     
  16. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    Square 1: Maybe God hates people that believe in him.
    Square 1A: Maybe you believe in the wrong God and that puts you into Square 4.
    Square 1B: Maybe God doesn't give a rats ass about people.
     
  17. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    Faith dude, thats balls. Faith is balls to a 't' he never faiths wrong. So who really believes 'God' is anything but Love, even if "anything but Love." The Faith stands.
     
  18. hansda Valued Senior Member

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    So according to you, Heaven is somewhere in the Universe. Is it some planet, star, some heavenly body, some space in the universe or existing throughout the Universe?

    I think GOD is the name given to The Universal Consciousness.

    Do you believe in consciousness? Can you explain your idea of consciousness? or, You believe in GOD?

    How you came to this conclusion/speculation?
     
  19. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    Heaven is safe, you don't need to search.

    Love is the greatest emotion, that must be 'God.'
     
  20. hansda Valued Senior Member

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    So, I think you do not have a very clear idea about the location of HEAVEN.


    If we are not supposed to search for Heaven, then why people are searching for The Truth? Isn't Heaven part of the truth?



    Love can be co-related with consciousness.
     
  21. hansda Valued Senior Member

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    I think these four squares can also be written as:

    Square 1: God exists. Consciousness exists. They are same.
    Square 2: God exists. Consciousness does not exist.
    Square 3: God does not exist. Consciousness exists.
    Square 4: God exists. Consciousness exists. They are different.
     
  22. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    We are Heaven dude. Heaven is an emotion. Are you talking about cloud city? I swear back off.

    The Truth is a man, find him. You don't need photos of cloud city.
     
  23. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    He can't be consciousness, because what about meaning? Meaning is higher. Pacifism. 'God' is the greatest thing.
     

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