Does time exist?

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  1. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    While predictions of the future can be made it is open to question how precise are the predictions?

    If the temperature is predicted to be 34°C and when the reading is taken it is 33.99°C would that count as accurate or accurate enough to count as a prediction?

    I would also contend for any prediction someone must be present to observe if the prediction actually occurs

    So any prediction never happens for those who die before the predicted event happens

    For those who happen to be present at the prediction must then decide on how accurate was the prediction

    On the TV show QI it was just stated Nostradamus only ever made one accurate prediction when he said his last words

    Tomorrow, I shall no longer be here

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  3. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    I agree with all the above except the term "actuates", which is a verb.
    IMO time is not a causal agent. All change is physically
    actuated and is the causal agent of time (of duration).

    All predictions of future events are based on knowledge of physical change or behavior, but as we never can know all the physical variables, any prediction of the future is speculative. At best an "educated guess" of causal potentials to be expressed in physical reality.
     
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  5. Asexperia Registered Senior Member

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    What do have in common changes and phenomena?

    1- They are sequential
    2- They occur in only one direction (from the past to the future)
    3- They are irreversible

    These are the characteristics that time transfers by ACTING on things.
     
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  7. hansda Valued Senior Member

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    If predictions are not precise, it will imply there is a scope/opportunity to develop new Laws.
     
  8. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    No sure what you mean by one direction and irreversible.

    Well, that turns out not to be true.

    Virtually all interactions in physics are time-reversible.
     
  9. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Hmm, the 2nd Law of TD would not agree, surely?

    I seem to recall that any "spontaneous" thermodynamic change involves an increase in entropy and is not reversible.

    But that is the difference between an idealised individual physical interaction and the evolution of a thermodynamic ensemble.

    I assume what he or she is getting at is the idea of entropy increase as the "arrow of time" and all that.
     
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  10. Asexperia Registered Senior Member

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    NATURE OF TIME

    Time is the duration of things subject to change.

    Time is perceived as a continuous sequence of irreversible moments.

    Time is measured by counting sequential intervals of equal duration.

    The Chromnesia is the record of the passage of time in the brain. History, Chronology and Philochrony
    Are part of the Chromnesia.
     
  11. Asexperia Registered Senior Member

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    NATURE OF TIME

    Time is the duration of things subject to change.

    Time is perceived as a continuous sequence of irreversible moments.

    Time is measured by counting sequential intervals of equal duration.

    The Chromnesia is the registry of the passage of time in the brain. History, Chronology
    and Philochrony are part of the Chromnesia.
     
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  12. origin Trump is the best argument against a democracy. Valued Senior Member

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    You have been repeating essentially the same thing for 38 pages. And what you are saying is trivially obvious. Is there a point to this?
     
  13. Asexperia Registered Senior Member

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    Maybe You are right.

    If it were so obvious there would not be so many opinions about time.
     
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  14. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Maybe Sibilia's perspective is all there is to it. It certainly agrees with my perspective that time is a result of duration, not an a priori causal imperative in and of itself. IOW, a simultaneous by-product, emerging as the chronological duration of events.

    This aspect leads to the concept that time is not an "independent" dimension, but a *permittive condition " which allows for chronological events to occur, along with their associated *time-lines, including a timeline of the duration of space itself (spacetime)

    It seems logical that the very fundamental aspects and functions of spacetime have to be based on simple *principles*. Why make it unnecessarily complex?

    We can even apply this in Darwinian terms, evolution is the gradual process of change emerging from simple extant elements and environments, along with related chronological passage (emergence) of time following every evolutionary branch, all within the Universal Pilot Wave with its own associated Universal time frame..

    Universal timeframe = emergent 4th dimension, chronological duration of ALL creative processes in a fundamentally permmitive condition.
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  15. river Valued Senior Member

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    Yes ( in the bold )

    That all the time is , the measured duration of the movement of objects .
     
  16. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    I have a small qualification. The duration of dynamic events comes into existence, regardless of measurement, by any means.
     
  17. river Valued Senior Member

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    Absolutely
     
  18. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    Please note

    duration

    Time is measured by counting sequential intervals of equal duration


    Incorrect

    AGE is measured in various arbitrary units some of which are portions of others or multiples of others

    AGE is not TIME

    measured

    measured duration of the movement of objects

    Incorrect

    Movement not required

    Unless you are meaning subatomic movement, which is a given, as no object exist which does not have subatomic movement

    If you mean macro movement - not required

    duration of dynamic events comes into existence

    Duration has no physical existence

    A CRITICAL property of existence is to have a physical presence

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  19. river Valued Senior Member

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    What is duration to you ?
     
  20. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    Age

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  21. river Valued Senior Member

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    How does age define duration ?
     
  22. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    Seriously?

    How long have you endured up to this current moment?

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  23. river Valued Senior Member

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    Years .
     

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