Does time exist?

... this M-W definition says nothing about "actual being" or "to be real" requires physicality. I'd recommend a good dictionary of philosophy where the difference between "actual" and "physical" are usually belabored from a variety of different schools of thought -- some of which will be sympathetic, FWIW.

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a very stripped down version of my TOE, BVC.

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phys·i·cal·i·ty
\ˌfi-zə-ˈka-lə-tē\
noun

• 1 : intensely physical orientation: pedominance of the physical usually at the expense of the mental, spiritual, or social
• 2 : a physical aspect or quality

Other forms: pluralphys·i·cal·i·ties
First use: 1660

Mirriam-Webster

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Exactly.. you're arguing that Time doesn't exist because its not physical/ substantial. M/W defines 'physicality' by contrasting non-physical things which nevertheless also 'exist'. M-W could just as well have been listed Time along with "mental", "spiritual" or "social".. E.g., show us a jar full of Intelligence, Respect or Kharma.

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ps. I have a discussion thread about BVC "Beon-Void Conjecture" on Toequest.com. I hadn't intended to unload BVC here, too, and so was trying to be brief and just discussing Time. But didn't do a very good job. I was brief rel to the source, but not rel to your original post. Sorry.

 

Please direct any mistakes in definetions to Mirriam-Webster and all other dictionaries who fail in their duty to be correct in the meanings of words

I am sure they will be delighted to have their shortcomings highlighted in the matter of non-physical things which nevertheless also 'exist' when in another entry in their very OWN dictionary also states

ex·ist
\ig-ˈzist\

• : to have actual being : to be real

I'm surprised I have not seen the entry 'sea' described as being composed of Earth

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In other words ...

The movement or phenomenon is the alteration or change that a body suffers.

Time measures the extent of movements.

 

What about things that don't change in any but the longest time frame?
Does time not exist for an iron atom?

 

Time does not exist PERIOD

I don't know the time frame of a iron atom, and to lazy to look it up, but from your post I am guessing it is a long AGE

And from

Asexperia

Time measures the extent of movements.

I have no idea what this means

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You keep asserting this without support.

Is it simply a faith-based belief?

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Age is simply the comparison of two points separated in time.

 

Didn't I post a large section of Chapter 6 of the book

The Invention of Time and Space by

Patrice Dassonville

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I think it might be on another thread so I will find it and post it here

Cheers

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There is movement in the iron atom.

 

I meant: Time measures the EXTENSION of movements.

 

Still does not make sense

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The extension of a movement is between its sequential beginning and end.

 

I'm not there yet

Only NOW exist

There is no thickness to NOW

NOW is ETERNAL

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Thou shalt have no moment but NOW

Thou shalt not exist in the past

You DID exist in previous NOWs up until they become the NOW NOW

Thou shalt not exist in the future

You WILL exist in the future ONLY if you are still alive when current NOW NOW becomes future current NOW

You can place a bookmark on a particular NOW using well known local markers

So and So was born on year month hour and so many seconds

When that particular moment returns after 1 revolution of the Earth around the Sun later So and So would be considered to have AGED 1 year

However born on another planet and using the same criteria as 1 revolution of the planet around the Sun equaling a year a even a cursory glance will note the years as to be expected are of different duration

Along with the whole of the Universe AGING 1 EARTH year while remaining only within NOW

Humans have created arbitrary divisions of the reasonably consistent pattern of the Earth moving around the Sun

The years are never the same length

Close enough for most activites

Constantly needing adjustment for others

5am in Darwin Australia

Another hour before officially awake

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Right. So change is continuous and ever-present and affects all things.

We have a word for that. We call that 'time'.

 

We get that.
'Now' is not the word we are defining. The word we are defining is 'time'.

 

The correct word is ageing

Everything does not time

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6.3 Definitions of Time
L’Encyclopédie of Diderot and d’Alembert defines the word tems5
: Succession of
phenomena in the universe, or time mode marked by certain periods and measures,
mainly by the motion and apparent revolution of the sun (Ch. 10, 4). This is
followed by comments which show the importance of the issue, but with nothing
more about time.
Having made definitions of time units, it is important to ask what separates two
arbitrary states of the Earth/Sun configuration, or two positions of a clock hand, or
what corresponds to an arbitrary number of cesium cycles: what is the corre-
sponding concept?
Our predecessors started using generic terms which transcend the units, with the
words time, duration, to last, etc. The difficulties caused by translations (supra Ch.
5) are worsened because, before Herodotus, the writings of the logographers
(storytellers perpetuating traditions) had no historicity, in spite of rare and some-
what approximate geographical and historical references, of the kind found in
Homer and Biblical literature. In addition, the scholiasts, those who comment these
texts, adapt the little history they know, projecting their creeds, their desires, and
their fears.
Here is an example in a translation of the Vulgata Venice (1551): Et fuerût cuncti
dies Adam quoad vixit, nongenti anni et triginta anni (Genesis, V, 5), which is
translated to: All the time that Adam lived was therefore nine hundred and thirty
years [1], instead of: And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty
years. The translator has commited an anachronism, in so far as neither the oral
tradition nor the storytellers of the day knew the concept of time. The exaggerated
age attributed to Adam and other protagonists might be explained by what Plutarch
wrote about the year: It only has three months among certain barbarians […].
Among Egyptians, the year had one month at first, and later it had four months (Ch.
3, 17: Life of Numa, 18, 6 & 7).
In the Odyssey, Homer writes: When the time came with the course of years (Ch.
3, 4: Song I).
The Queen Hatshepsut (1504-1483 BC): So that my name is durable and per-
petual. Hatshepsut’s high priest: I went towards my place of infinite duration.

Amenophis I (Amon is satisfied) (1558-1530 BC): Amon whose monuments are
long-lasting (Ch. 5, 14: Ch. II).
In Tell el-Amarna, on the tomb of Aï, who was the second husband of Nefertiti
(the beautiful one has come), there appears a poignant anthem to the Sun composed
by the Pharaoh Akhenaten, instigator of the first monotheism: You are time itself,
you last with it. In you, we all live eternally thanks to your splendour (Ch. 5, 25:
Ch. II).
I saw the customs of my time, wrote Jean-Jacques Rousseau in the preface to La
Nouvelle Héloïse published in 1761: Rousseau used time instead of epoch.
Time can be conceptualized and defined using the same approach as for the
definition of units: first with the configuration Earth/Sun, then with a conventional
clock, and with a cesium clock, and finally in relation to the physical state of any
system.

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