Since science seems to be going with the fact that energy is indestructible, only convertible, energy must be fundamental, of infinite duration. Duration is time, even if it has no beginning, so: Can that duration be called energytime? If there were particles virtually popping in and out of existence during that pre-BB energy-loaded time, they must have had a place to do that in, so : Can we call that area, or era, timespace? Then, we could have a whole universe pop or better, bang into existence in a small point (singularity) in energy time space. without violating any known laws.