Does truth have many versions?

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  1. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    The fact may not be subjective but the interpretation is.

    That's kind what an interpretation is.
     
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  3. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Then that answers my original question; there can be different versions of truth.
     
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  5. geordief Valued Senior Member

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    Interpretations are not set in stone but facts /data are (They lie in the past)

    Interpretations are provisional and can be updated when new perspectives come into view.

    That new perspective can also be an alternative interpretation which can then enter into competition for a clearer view of the "facts" in question.
     
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  7. river

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    Yes , but Not Really .

    To the truth , there is no observer perspective .
     
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  8. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    I guess that depends on what definition of truth you want to use.

    A lot of people speak about "my truth" (i.e. their truth); but that's more accurately called belief or personal certainty.

    If you want to talk about "the" truth then that's a different ballgame.
     
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  9. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    I know what you mean.

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  10. river

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    To your last statement , agreed .
     
  11. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Yea, I’m talking about different truths applicable to facts. A poor example in need of a better one would be “the sky is so blue, today,” but another observer states “well, it’s mostly blue, today.”

    Both would be right, about a fact. I’m not articulating this as best as I can, but origin’s post touches upon it.
     
  12. river

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    Depends on your perspective , inotherwords .

    But why there is a blue sky to begin with .... ? Because it is a truth .

    Anywhere on this planet a blue sky appears . Beyond the clouds .
     
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  13. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    The day was 75 degrees. I said it was a bit cold and you said it was a bit hot. Hot and cold are subjective terms. We could both agree that it was 75 degrees. That's the factual part.
     
  14. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    I know what you’re saying but that’s not where I was heading with this topic.

    It’s not about opinions or feelings with the facts, floating somewhere in the background.

    Obviously, you may feel hot and I feel cold, if it’s 75 degrees outside. Those are feelings, though.

    What do you make of origin’s post? I feel you’re ignoring it lol
     
  15. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Maybe restate it, so you can direct the thread back on-topic.
     
  16. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    I don't feel I'm ignoring it. I feel like I'm not getting it in the way that you are. Please explain.
     
  17. river

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    75 degrees is 75 degrees .
     
  18. whynwhynwhy Registered Member

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    3 different versions. Both objective and subjective.
    The past truths. The present ones. And the future ones.
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  19. river

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    Consistent truths are # 4 .

    The consistency of the past , present and future .
     
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  20. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Future truths??

    Got an example?
     
  21. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    most peoples perception is self referencing
    (bit of a sticky subject)
     
  22. river

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    True .

    Its their job .
     
  23. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    Ego & Self Actualisation for compulsory individuation requires self referencing.

    hive mind reality does not allow for creative intellectual progress.
    entropic negative return is a natural state of natural wild brains
    this is why predatory systems are always in play.
    to step out of the predatory system there is a large leap required.

    my comment was more a semi critique of the nature of the Ego.
     

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