Dogs that see or sense what their owners can't

Discussion in 'Parapsychology' started by birch, Dec 24, 2017.

  1. birch Valued Senior Member

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    it could be something like mice but it doesn't explain all of them.

    what is unusual about these incidents is because pets are used to sounds and smells, either in apartments with neighbors or houses.

    two of them seemed to be afraid of an object such as the statue and that large picture in the hallway but that is still unusual for pets to be afraid of trinkets or objects in the house.

    this is anecdotal but when i first saw an apparition in my room as a child which i even saw leave walking through the door to the hallway, my cat was nowhere in sight and it always slept at the foot of my bed curled up.
     
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  3. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    You can read meaning into situations that have no meaning. One cat loves a piece of crinkly paper and another one is frightened by it due to the noise it makes. There is no meaning there however.

    Your cat that is always at the foot of your bed isn't always there. You are usually sleeping and it is often there (not always there). I have a cat that is usually sleeping on my bed at night. He also gets up a lot to go eat, chase a bug, listen to a loud car that just drove by, etc.

    They has good senses of smell and hearing and are easily excited. When they "warn" us of something dangerous we read meaning into it. When they warn us of a balled up piece of paper or a bird on a nearby branch we don't assign meaning to it.

    Lastly, some owners are probably stupid and the pet is the smarter one and they probably do keep their owners out of trouble.
     
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  5. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    Dogs sense what their owners cannot:

    And:
    That is why we hunt with them!
     
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  7. birch Valued Senior Member

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    i and everyone else is already aware of the usual explanations you just spouted. that is not the point and nor does it negate the fact i saw the apparition. it was just noteworthy that it was not there when it usually was, unlike your cat who was only sometimes.
     
  8. birch Valued Senior Member

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    really?! like better hearing and sense of smell? i didn't know that. thank you for offering the obvious.
     
  9. birch Valued Senior Member

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    what's stupid whenever people start threads in the fringe is the 'stupid' assumption by others who already consider paranormal completely bunk that their trivial and easy explanations must be true when they may not apply in all situations. even the narrator of the video is more astute than that.

    they are stupid enough to assume you haven't considered or aware of all the mundane possibilities but they have.
     
  10. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    That leaves just the possibility that the paranormal is real. ...
    unless you count the possibility that dogs are just as superstitious as their owners.
    I had a dog who spooked at the same pair of black rubber boots by the same back door, every day for eight years, until I got a new pair of green rubber boots, that she walked calmly by. Go, figure! (Nobody ever kicked her with any kind of footwear.)

    By the way, dogs are sometimes as sensitive to an absence or change as to a presence. In that first video, the wall looks freshly painted; I conjecture that a large picture or mirror may have been removed. In the last one, the pup may be searching for something that ought to be in those corners and isn't - that dining room looks remarkably uncluttered, compared to the rest of the apartment: they got new IKEA furniture and changed the room.
     
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  11. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    You are welcome.

    ............................'
    (layman's version of orthopraxy vs orthodoxy)
     
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  12. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    It could be fifteen different things, that collectively do explain all of them.

    I've seen three dogs focus on apparently innocuous areas of a house with marked persistence, scoring after much discussion and owner bemusement one nesting bee swarm, a couple of red squirrels, and a family of raccoons in a disused chimney. And these were sane dogs - there exist neurotic and unstable dogs, who imagine things.

    My favorite dog obsession - because it wasn't my dog, but I liked the animal, and this was entertaining - was an Elkhound/Shepherd cross that had developed an antipathy toward skunks (bad experience as a puppy). (Most people would I think be surprised at how common skunks are, even in fairly urban areas, and how frequently they can be located, cornered, and killed by an interested and dedicated public servant of the canid variety.) The point being: when this dog went on alert, regardless of visible cause, paranormal anything would be far down on the list of concerns. Getting a leash on him before he acted on his superior smell and hearing would be primary.
     
  13. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    As one who has been up late more than one night with bottles of coke or tomato juice and an unbearable best friend, I heartily concur.
     
  14. birch Valued Senior Member

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    well, the two where the dogs seem to be barking at objects (statue and picture) seem easy to take care of. i would remove the statue and picture and see if that solves it.

    especially, the dog in the hallway who stops continually and stares at the large picture on the wall. i would remove the picture if my dog is afraid to walk the hallway and see if that takes care of the problem. if it doesn't, i would call in exterminators or maintenance man to check if there is something moving in the walls that the dog is barking at. if none of this is the case, then i would be genuinely spooked.
     
  15. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    Remove the night-light while you're at it. That's at dog's nose-level and very annoying.
     

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