Doing the Numbers on No. 1

Discussion in 'Pseudoscience' started by nebel, Apr 30, 2018.

  1. river

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    Second highlight .

    What are these formations ? What is the shape ? By the way I went back to the beginning of this thread , interesting .

    And are these circles longitude and latitude ? Inotherwords three dimensional .
     
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  3. nebel

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    River, you are crossing over here into the "planets orbit as stars vibrate " thread.
    The images coming from Alma, of the radio waves, the rings around stars, now even centered on a planet , forming Moons, and a planet or two that orbit at 90 degrees to the ecliptic of the rest of their planetary system, shows,
    that these formations are 3 dimensional
    The gaps seen can be the result of planets clearing out the cloud, but also that chladni type actions create the gaps in wave nodes in the first place. any way,
    life started in the planet No. 10 position here.
     
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  5. river

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    What are ; wave nodes ? And are these ; chladni type actions ? That create the gaps in wave nodes .
     
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  7. nebel

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    You probably can find good images of these on google, copyrighted. A vibrating body like a string or cymbal, would have areas where the waves cancel, or create quiet, stationary zones where dust for example would be forced to congregate, being kicked out of the amplitude areas. The same phenomenon can be the series of low points in a wave sequence in the water flow of a brook behind a stone, where a light floating object, like a ball or kayaker is trapped in place.
    The "Planet orbit like Stars vibrate" thread offered the alternative theory, that processes, be they magnetic , gravitational or other, related to the "eigenschwingung" of the entities, prompted matter to amass in the distinct locations, sequenced patterns we see today.

    That the regular ratios we see in our planetary system give life's planet all these 10s is another question, the subject of this "No.1" thread.
     
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  8. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    This argument could be extended to the entire universe, via Bohmian Mechanics.

    The Energy of a Trillion Atomic Bombs in Every Cubic Centimeter of Space!
    Michael Talbot and David Bohm (in quotes) in Talbot’s The Holographic Universe , Chapter 2: The Cosmos as Hologram, p.51 According to our current understanding of physics, every region of space is awash with different kinds of fields composed of waves of varying lengths.

     
  9. nebel

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    w4y, yeah, even string theory is dependant on frequencies. but the " star vibrate as planet orbit " or vice versa theory , deals with frequencies of 5 minutes, distances of .3 AU = 300 light seconds. , or in the case of the Jupiter/Sun barycenter even 11 years. but

    this different thread's multiple 10 ratios are another matter.
     
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  10. nebel

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    here for 1/3 of humans and all that use the CE calendar, ( 1921 now),
    make that the 10st letter of the alphabet.
     
  11. nebel

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    here is another one: related to the Jupiter orbital velocities cancel? thread. The golden rule in the Sun to Earth gravity. At our surface, at 1 AU distance, the Sun's gravity is 1/1600. of the local value, 10 m/sec^2 10 meters versus 6 mm/sec^2
    1000.times the golden rule.

    " ( 1921 now)," quote from previous post, correction, make that 2021. what is a 100 years between friends? apology.10th letter is J btw.
     
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  12. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    AFAIK, the Golden Rule can be found in every spiral. It seems to be a universal constant when forming spiral objects

    IMO, it is an expression of mathematical logic that can be observed in the natural phenomena of Fibonacci Sequence everywhere in the universe and on earth. Apparently this ordering sequence allows for the most efficient distribution fractal constituent parts, such as found in branch, leaf, and flower petal growth formation of vertically growing plants and trees for maximum surface exposure to sunlight for photosynthesis..

    It must be a result of the "evolution via natural selection" process.
     
  13. nebel

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    so, it is great to see it popping up in the Solar vs Earthly gravity measurements. on our planet's surface. in the thin atmosphere , only place, No.1` in the universe with organic life, as far as we know.
     
  14. river

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    Highlighted

    What of Galactic Spiral Arms ?

    Yes .
     
  15. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Yep, approximations of Golden Ratio (a mathematical exponential function) can be found everywhere throughout the universe.

    Fibonacci number (golden ratio, golden mean)

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibonacci_number

    This logarithmic function is one of the many aspects of a fractal universe.

    What’s special about the shape of a Nautilus shell?
    Posted by Deborah Byrd, April 18, 2013
    https://earthsky.org/human-world/nautilus-shell-fibonacci-logarithmic-spiral-golden-spiral/

    To the argument that there are no perfect spirals, the answer of course is that in a dynamic universe nothing can be in its "ideal" form. All mathematically shaped patterns are approximations, using the maths as the "guiding equation", rather than the formation of a statical fixed pattern
     
  16. river

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    Based on observations of the physical .

    All physical objects , because they are real , have three physical properties , therefore will have mathematics as a consequence . Measurement .
     
  17. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    The formation itself is guided by the abstract mathematical sequence.

    1 + 1 = 2 + 1 = 3 +2 = 5 + 3 = 8 + 5 = 13 ......... The very fact that so many different objects in nature have the Fibonacci sequence suggests not an expression of a specific physical affinity, but of a mathematical constant, that guides the formation of all spirals wherever they appear.

    In living organisms, the growth formula is contained in the DNA of the organism. It's a naturally evolved growth program.
     
  18. nebel

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    so, to stick with the OP: measurement of gravity at the surface of the No.1 planet, ours, and solar gravitation at 1 AU has the golden ratio popping up, a thousand fold.
    paper sized in the golden ratio folded a 1000 times still has that ratio
     
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  19. river

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    But it does express a specific natural physical affinity .
     
  20. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    No, it's a pattern forming formula It is a growth pattern.
     
  21. nebel

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    here is the golden ratio growth pattern on the "Doing the numbers on No.1"
    Earth to Moon surface gravity; 10/1.6 pseudoscience at its finest. or how about
    Distance of Earth to Sun in AU: 1 / 1.6 AU from Sun to Mars
    Distance Earth to Mercury from 1 /.6 AU
     
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  22. river

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    What is the essence of this growth pattern ? The physical real objective object .
     
  23. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    As I understand it, DNA has start growth (cell division) and stop growth (stop cell division) codes

    Start and Stop Codons
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    The start codon marks the site at which translation into protein sequence begins, and the stop codon marks the site at which translation ends.

    How do we know which codon codes for which amino acid?
    Use a Genetic Code table, as in the next slide.

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    The genetic code is the set of instructions in a gene that tell the cell how to make a specific protein.
    Sources: definition from the National Human Genome Research Institute (NHGRI) Glossary of Genetic Terms

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Class/MLACourse/Modules/MolBioReview/geneticcode.html
     

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