Dreams

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  1. chimpkin C'mon, get happy! Registered Senior Member

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    For some reason this puts me in mind of scarabs...

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    Or rather the balls of crap they hatch their babies out in...
    We're all just being rolled along, entirely full of crap, various bits stuck to the outside called ego, the inside being slowly consumed...
    Good metaphor?

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  3. gendanken Ruler of All the Lands Valued Senior Member

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    Ripley:
    Yeah.

    Sorry, Ripley, I've nothing else to say. I'm...incredibly.......bored. Like, really.

    Its not you.


    And I'm stealing this-
    Chimp
    Niiiice.

    Though I've read this more or less in Duchamp.

    blah blah blah? BOOgaboobga boo. Meh.

    Goodnight.

    -Gendanken
     
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  5. Ripley Valued Senior Member

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    Gendanken: I'm...incredibly.......bored. Like, really.

    Na—I can understand that. But, on a final note, I don't quite ever remember dreaming about boredom. I wonder if the self—that ancient mechanism of consciousness—knows how to illustrate boredom unconsciously?
     
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  7. wellwisher Banned Banned

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    Boredom occurs when the flow of mental And emotional energy is obstructed in a way that alters the emotional valence to something less than forfillment. The energy is not dammed per se, but is being diverted but used. There is no depression due to a bigger obstruction, just a feeling of blah since the energy is being used but in a way that does not trigger the same limbic potentials.

    In dreams this may show up as a river that splits. On path is lush or colorful and the other path is more drab and dry. There may be need to take the drab path such as looking for gold or bring pushed that way. The dream may have an animal that gets your attention, who runs through the brush to the other river branch. You instinctively know what to do. But maybe the brush is too thick and you can't go.; obligations. As you wander further, you notice a path that is easier to follow. This might imply after work fun; lush colors.
     
  8. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    More drivel.
    Please stop.
     
  9. wellwisher Banned Banned

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    Dimwitta, your criticism gets so redundant it is boring.
     
  10. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Of course it's boring!
    Thank you.
    It's deliberately done that way to suit the inane stupidity of your unfounded claims.
    And my criticism is obviously not redundant since it appears to have had no effect so far on the *cough* quality of your posts.
     
  11. whynot Registered Senior Member

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    Dreams allow you to shed the physical limitations and experience stimuli and collected data in a more spiritual way. It also opens you up more to your extra sensory perceptions that your unaware of blocking during waking hours. Thats why I am able to pick up on future events that are going to take place.

    Right now it has been about news on the air force , fuel leaks and explosions.
     
  12. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    No.
    What's "spiritual" about dreams?

    Please provide some evidence of these "extra sensory perceptions" and evidence that we "block" them while awake.

    Untrue.

    SFW?
     
  13. whynot Registered Senior Member

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    you all ready know what spiritual means. that you don't believe in the human spirit makes sense to your other posts. what is hope? why have it if your just a collective sponge of information and random events?

    extra sensory perception is just our body reading its environment on a micro level. you can not see harmones, but our bodies pick up signals from chemical releases around us. When sleeping we are more open to reading those things.

    well its not remote viewing, these dreams about the air force, its just picking up on my surroundings i'm sure. no remote views i've had occure are rare and i can tell r not part of just a dream. meaning in my dream state i know something different is occuring that plays out things i could not just randomly pick up because i've never know until the dream certain things i would pick up. that is enough evidence for me.
     
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  14. chimpkin C'mon, get happy! Registered Senior Member

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    That would be sensory perception. Pheromonal effects on the human body are well-documented.

    But how that's supposed to tell you about the future I have not the foggiest, unless that future includes things suddenly getting sexy in the room you and at least one other person are in.
     
  15. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Sure:
    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/spirit
    Are you claiming that dreams are something to do with "spirit", "soul" or "your religious beliefs"?

    There's no evidence for it.

    What does "hope" have to do with a "soul"? Stop diverting.

    Really?
    Is this your own definition?

    So you're claiming that responding to hormonal signals is ESP?

    Do you have anything to show that this is more simply an unsupported supposition of your own?

    Of course it's not. Remote viewing is a fake.

    You haven't had any.

    You mean you're fooling yourself and you're now trying to fool me and anyone else who reads this. Okay. It didn't work on me, hard luck.
     
  16. The Esotericist Getting the message to Garcia Valued Senior Member

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    If it's fake, why has the US government been funding research on it for over two decades? (Perhaps the program is ongoing?)
    http://www.scientificexploration.org/journal/jse_10_1_puthoff.pdf
    I so appreciate your skepticism Dywyddyr, it keeps me oh so grounded, and weeds out bozo posts like these. I needn't bother with them, I sometimes wonder why you do. Thanks for your vigilance and hard work. You're much like the predator of the SciForum ecosystem. Pouncing immediately on the weak and feeble, thinning out the herd. You revel in the responsibility?

    Yet. . . You would do well to not cross the line sometimes. At a certain point, evidence does seem to indicate something exists that may make your reality a bit uncomfortable.

    On that note. . . ever see the movie, "The Men Who Stare At Goats?" Terrific movie. "They" say it is based on a true story. So apparently the research, although it "ended," still is in play.

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    http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/11/psychic-spies-acid-guinea-pigs-new-age-gis-the-true-men-who-stare-at-goats/
    http://www.consortiumnews.com/2009/111609a.html
     
  17. dreams Registered Senior Member

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    Finally a thread about me

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  18. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Two reasons:
    1) They were informed that the USSR was spending a lot of money and thought to keep up.
    2) The guy who proposed it was fairly influential (but a crank).

    Responsibility?

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    There's the point! Evidence may exist that "makes my reality a bit uncomfortable" but so many woo woos decide they know what's happening and assign a name and capabilities to it without actually knowing what it is.

    It's based on Jon Ronson's book of the same name, which I read about 5 years ago, and yes, I have seen the film. But it's, er, Hollywoodised.
    The ONLY thing "workable" that came out of the programme was the ex-members who went on to form their own "schools" to "teach" the "ability. This made them a comfortable living by taking money from the gullible in search of the impossible.

    I think there's a thread here somewhere discussing some aspects of US research, maybe a search for Puthoff or Ingo Swann might give results.
     
  19. Ripley Valued Senior Member

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    Wellwisher: Boredom occurs when the flow of mental And emotional energy is obstructed in a way that alters the emotional valence to something less than forfillment. The energy is not dammed per se, but is being diverted but used. There is no depression due to a bigger obstruction, just a feeling of blah since the energy is being used but in a way that does not trigger the same limbic potentials.

    I don't see boredom as a physiological ailment—although physical symptoms will most likely manifest after the fact. But instead I see it as an intellectual malaise. Or, for the more savvy, a philosophical one. And contained within its void, a hidden secret challenge—a disappointed conscience—nagging to snap out of it… I think.
     
  20. The Esotericist Getting the message to Garcia Valued Senior Member

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    Really? Thanks so much.

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    I'm sure the info I get there will be much informative and to the point. Trying to find info on the web is so time consuming. Journalists are always so out to sensationalize and entertain.
     
  21. gendanken Ruler of All the Lands Valued Senior Member

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    Ripley:
    Seems I've got a little more pep today-

    Dreaming about squirting to Sciforums? Actually, no-

    I've worked with animals.

    Not the forum kind like the Gustav, but the kind that mothers take their children to ogle.

    You pass an alligator's cage at 6 in the morning, say, and he'll be in the same position you saw him at 12 noon.

    You'll pass him again hours later, and he's barely moved but an inch in 4 hours.

    Some would describe this as suspension or a state of catatonia, but I've come to interpret this is as the complete inability to imagine what else it could be doing.
    This is, perhaps, the meaning of boredom: the intense awareness of Ought.

    It's a mark of intelligence, which is why higher mammals like canids, ravens, and magpies get bored and connive ways to escape while lower intelligences like an alligator's are completely ignorant of how things could otherwise be.
    This would explain why alligators and fish never try to escape.

    Boredom, therefore, is the ability to conceptualize Ought.

    What'd you think, love? INPUT.
     
  22. Ripley Valued Senior Member

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    Well, not meaning to stigmatize myself here at sciforums but I often will attempt to act upon my curiosities and one of them was to try meth—I mean, I heard awful things about it but was mostly impressed by its apparent aphrodisiacal qualities. (It's kinda true.) Anyway, believe it or not, I was that alligator you spoke of—three nights and days without food or sleep (well, to be honest, I did have interludes of prowling about). But, I remember realizing that hours passed by with me just lying there messaging my back on the mattress. Was I bored? No. I was content.
     
  23. Ripley Valued Senior Member

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    This is, perhaps, the meaning of boredom: the intense awareness of Ought.

    So, I gather, contentment supersedes Ought.
     
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