Effect Of Split Rings In A Simple D.c Motor?

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  1. chikis Registered Senior Member

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    What is the effect of using split- rings in a simple d.c motor?
    A. The direction of rotation of the coil is reversed. B. The current in the coil flow in the same direction C. The current in the coil becomes alternating D. The direction of force on the coil is reversed E The contact with the voltage source is cut off.
    I have never seen a d.c motor before or a split ring. I don't just know the function of a split ring in a simple d.c motor.
    I don't know wether anybody has an idea about this.
     
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  3. elte Valued Senior Member

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    Your inquiry reminds me of alternators that have slip rings. In alternators, slip rings are used to transfer power the field windings.
     
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  5. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Answer: B.

    Once the coil has rotated half a turn, the magnetic force on the current would be in the wrong direction unless the current was reversed.
     
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  7. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    by "split ring" i assume you mean commutator.
    by simple D.C. motor i assume you mean a single coil of wire on the armature.
    i also assume permanent magnets generate the field.

    the closet answer is C.

    the current is reversed.
     
  8. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Whether we say the current is reversed or in the same direction depends on how you look at it. When the coil flips round half a turn, we need the current to flow in the same direction with respect to the stationary magnets. That requires that the current direction with respect to the rotating coil is reversed.
     
  9. chikis Registered Senior Member

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    Here comes the confusion; James R choose B and leopold choose C.
    From this two option, which do we take?
    I faced simillar problem with two past question and answers with each suggesting different answers.
     
  10. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    the commutator reverses the direction of current flow through the armature coils.
    that is why the commutator is needed.

    in effect, the armature coil current becomes alternating.

    the correct answer is C.
     
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  11. chikis Registered Senior Member

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    So where do you strongly belong to now?
     
  12. chikis Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, I agree with you that the commutator reverses the direction of current flow through the armature coils.
    But what is the end result?
     
  13. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    The problem is with the words "the current in the coil flows in the same direction". There are two possible interpretations: (1) the same direction with respect to the stationary magnets in the motor, or (2) the same direction with respect to the rotating coil.

    With a commutator, the current stays the same direction with respect to the stationary magnets (option B), but reverses direction with respect to the coil (option C).
     
  14. Emil Valued Senior Member

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    Not really understand exactly what you mean by split- rings.
    If there is for bypassing (shortcircuit) the number of poles then the motor speed increases.
     
  15. Emil Valued Senior Member

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    Whoops .... I understand now.
    Is the basic element for DC motor operation.
    (There is no in AC motors.)

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  16. chikis Registered Senior Member

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    You have actually made it. Slip rings are used in a.c motors but whenever we want to make a d.c motor; the slip-ring is then replaced with split-ring ( slip-ring which have been splited).
    The function of split-ring in a d.c motor is simple:
    an a.c motor produces current that changes it direction in every given time of it flow, therefore it direction is not steady (same); it changes (reverses) direction periodically a d.c motor produces current which does not change it direction periodically. It flows in a steady (same) direction. Whenever a we want to convert an a.c to d.c motor, we simply replace the slip ring in an a.c motor with a split-ring which reverses the direction of the current so that it flows in the same (steady) direction and the amateure coil will keep on rotating.
    The answer is B and no other.
     
  17. chikis Registered Senior Member

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    A split-ring is just a slip ring that have been splited (divided) into two equal halve which can be used in a d.c motor to keep the current moving in a steady direction through the coil.
    Click the link below and you will get to see the split-ring. Is also known as the commutator.
    http://sciencecity.oupchina.com.hk/npaw/student/glossary/img/commutator.jpg
     
  18. el es Registered Senior Member

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  19. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    if you put this answer on a test i guarantee that you will get it wrong.


    A commutator is a rotary electrical switch in certain types of electric motors or electrical generators that periodically reverses the current direction between the rotor and the external circuit.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commutator_(electric)
     

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