Elizabeth II

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  1. geordief Valued Senior Member

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    Yes ,leave them alone I say.

    What does it matter if it is(called) a king or a queen?

    Obviously new documents and stone inscriptions can be updated but otherwise it is a waste of money.
     
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  3. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    (My OCD made me.)
     
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  5. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Sure

    Chisel Queen's Bench off

    Make a King's Bench plaque big enough to cover the chisel marks

    Araldite plaque over chisel marks, although they probably might make a few holding pins and use mortar to fix it to the wall

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  7. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    What's all the fuss about letterheads?? It's a simple bitmap or jpeg or something like that these days, isn't it? Hand out a bit of stationery and Bob's your aunty's brother. 40 years ago, sure, maybe a bit more onerous to hand out the vast tomes of new stationery, but these days it's just a case of sending an e-mail to IT and getting them to replace the headers on the default documents etc. Seriously, not too onerous.

    Chiselling the courthouse - nothing a bit of gyproc easyfill and a chisel can sort out.

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    Just replace the stone, or front thereof. In the grand scheme it really is rather easy.
     
  8. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    My point is it's usually not the system that is the problem but the politicians and the times in general. A Trump could occur under your system as well.

    At one point in time our system was considered to have a weak Presidency with too much power in Congress.
     
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  9. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    It doesn't matter whether it matters to you or me. It matters to the government.
     
  10. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    The paper still costs money. And you can't magically vanish the obsolete ones by email.
     
  11. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    I didn't suggest it had no cost. Cost is actually really easy for a government. And only new documentation, when printed, will need updated headers. Existing documents don't become obsolete just because they may refer to the previous monarch. So, yeah, it's all still relatively simple stuff.
     
  12. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    On the contrary, they really do. I gave an example.
    Sure, extremely complex can become "relatively simple" if you wave your hands hard enough.
     
  13. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    You gave an example?? Where? I must have missed it.
    And "relatively simple" can become "extremely complex" if you focus on the minutiae without giving it the wider context that it deserves.
     
  14. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    Message #60: "When our provincial government changed the name of one of it's agencies forty-some years ago, tons of letterheads had to be thrown out."
    All I did was point out that there ARE minutiae involved, which we don't immediately think of.
     
  15. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    Okay - but I commented on that, that that was 40 years ago, and things have progressed since then that makes things that much easier to change. And you're still referring to NEW documents, not to existing documents. I.e. does a legal document need to be changed because the letterhead at the top refers to the previous monarch?
    Sure, and the minutiae are relatively simple to deal with. You haven't given example of anything that is particularly complex. Sure, 40 years ago, without widespread computer use etc, things may have been more complex, but look at what is actually required, and ask yourself how easy (relatively speaking) it actually is.
     
  16. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Whether it's simple or complex, it is what it is. Is any of this of any import?
     
  17. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    Apparently it was important enough for you to argue with my simple statement of fact.

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  18. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    And I pointed out that throwing away the obsolete documents was not that easy.
    You and I don't decide what "needs" to be done.
     
  19. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    So, basically, a lot like any multinational mega corp that modifies its name.

    Dunder-Mifflin Infinity.
     
  20. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    Exactly. In today's technological age it's a lot simpler than it was even, say, forty years ago.

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    I'm sure this reference means something to you....
     
  21. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    WHAT obsolete documents??? You've referenced letterheads - which is stationery, not documents. And since most yet-to-be-printed documents are on computers, it's a simple change of image. And even physical stationery really isn't that onerous. I've been through many a company take-over / name change, and it isn't difficult. Costly? Sure. Difficult? No.
    But what obsolete documents are you referring to???
    Of course not. Regarding legal documents, it is legal precedent that does. And existing contracts don't need to change. If it had a letterhead referring to QEII then it is still valid and enforceable. It does not need to be reprinted on new letterheads reflecting the new monarch. At least in the UK. Only new contracts that reference the monarchy need do so, to the extent that they refer to the specific monarch.
     
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    An office supply company, specializing in paper. They had a whole story arc where the company changed their name from Dunder-Mifflin to Dunder-Mifflin Infinity.
    A totally vacuous change, that means nothing, accomplishes nothing yet managed to take so long in-story that it formed the subplot for a whole season.
     
  23. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    Ah, the US remake of the far superior British original.

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