Enemies Within: The Islamist Threat.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by DoctorNO, Apr 22, 2004.

  1. Vienna Registered Senior Member

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    OOOooo Touched a nerve have we...

    The war was in its 3rd year before America decided to help. Fuck me, don't talk about Americas help. If America is really an ally, where were you in 1939 ??? eh? Where the fuck was America???

    If it wasn't for Hitler declaring war on USA you would have let us get taken over - and it was very close.

    Hitler won the war for Britain, if he had attacked us instead of going for Russia, we would have been taken in days. He went for Russia instead, giving us breathing space to arm ourselves better, but it would have all been in vain if Hitler hadn't declared war on you. So in a way I thank Hitlers bad judgements, the Germans allowed Britain to win the war through their own bad judgement. We owe America nothing!
     
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  3. Eluminate Registered Senior Member

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    basicly islamic snake got what it deserved from stalin...
    The setting: 1942 Germans are advancing on the Russian front many people in Russia and the conquered countries become German henchmen and kill their own countrymen.
    Chechnya & Crimea; 50-60% of the Chechens & Tartars go over to the German side and start persecuting their countrymen by becoming "polizei" in work and death camps and outright support of the german units.
    1943 The Russian front is being pushed back southern Russia is more secure in 24 hours stalin rounded up every chechen and most of the crimean tartars and sent em to build houses in the arctic circle.

    Afterthought all of them deserved it they turned on their fellow man in the hour of need and attacked their neighborghs and countrymen with whom they lived for many years. They got exactly what they deserved if not enough. If I was stalin i woulda had them executed instead of gulaged.
     
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  5. Vienna Registered Senior Member

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    Yep - and it isn't going to happen in Britain - you just watch.

    And Undecided (Very apt name - Doesn't know up from down) Get that stupid flag outta my face - its crap.
     
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  7. Undecided Banned Banned

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    If America is really an ally, where were you in 1939 ??? eh? Where the fuck was America???

    Since I am not American, it was us in Canada who was in the fight since 1939. So we were helping you, and we would have harbored your navy and royal family. Where was America? She was in the background giving you aid in those early years. But you wouldn't have survived without her.

    If it wasn't for Hitler declaring war on USA you would have let us get taken over - and it was very close.

    Thank you all I needed to hear; you owe your existence to the power of the US.
     
  8. Vienna Registered Senior Member

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    And if Hitler hadn't declared war on America?

    Anyway Undecided, with friends like you who the fuck needs enemies.

    I personally owe nothing to America
     
  9. Undecided Banned Banned

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    And if Hitler hadn't declared war on America?


    According to the Atlantic Charter the US stated that it was fighting also to destroy the Nazi's. That was written months before December 1941, so the US entering into the war without Hitler was a real possibility. It was really out of Hitler's hands, he was tied in by the Pact of Steel with Japan, and he saw a golden opportunity. The UK would have lost the war without the US; you have to at least admit that.
     
  10. Vienna Registered Senior Member

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    Britain took THREE YEARS of battering without America. An ally would have aided from the start, America didn't. FACT.

    Anyway, look at Britain today, its a shambles. I have seen war veterans cry, "Just look at what have we fought for". Instead of this country being a safe and free country for our children and grandchildren to live, it has turned into a country full of asylum seekers and immigrants. They burn the British flag, and pour violence on its streets. Now we wait for the UK to enter the list of casualties along with 9/11, Bali, Madrid, etc.
     
  11. Undecided Banned Banned

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    Vienna, then the solution might be to limit the flow of immigration. The problem exists in all nations, Islamic or not. In Saudi, in Canada, in Paraguay even. This is an international movement, this is a strong movement. Most Muslims aren't fanatical, don't blame the Islamic community, the more you villianize them the more radical they get. The Islamic community has to become pro-active and deal with this movement. They are dissatisfied youth, like gang members, like radicals, they are easily influenced. We have to come to the realization that those valiant soldiers in WWII fought for all our freedom, and we should cherish it for all.
     
  12. Eluminate Registered Senior Member

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    The war was lost when he attacked Russia after 1943 it didnt matter weather US would intervine or not it was simply over for the wermacht. Three things happened in 1943, Stalingrad loss for the Germans. The battle of Kurskaya duga was a complete anihilation of their prime units and tank groups. One of their armies got captured forgot which one I think it was the 8th.

    The Normandy landings were insurance so that france wouldn't become freed by the Russian forces and become socialist... Everything was already decided when they landed.
     
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    The authorities say that laws to protect religious expression and civil liberties have the result of limiting what they can do to stop hateful speech. In the case of foreigners, they say they are often left to seek deportation, a lengthy and uncertain process subject to legal appeals, when the suspect can keep inciting attacks.

    from The New York Times
     
  14. Spyke Registered Senior Member

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    The Battle of Britain didn't start until July 1940. The US was already supplying Britain by that time through the cash and carry program, and when Britain ran out of money extended that to the Lend Lease program in spring of '41. About that time US destroyers also started escorting British merchant ships as far as Iceland, by extending the normal patrol routes that far, so it could be claimed the DDs were merely patrolling instead of escorting, which violated neutrality laws. The FDR administration did everything it could to help Britain despite its own internal laws.
     
  15. Vienna Registered Senior Member

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    And in Britain these laws are a joke - I sense the UK is going to get hit very soon and the British government has not done enough - and is not doing enough to stop these dregs of mankind from thriving in our country.

    The British government is not protecting its people - it follows its own outrageous laws which protect these dogs from immediate deportation, or even arrest for treason.

    British law is a joke and the government is sick.
     
  16. Eluminate Registered Senior Member

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    well viena no offense but bitching about it here does nothing... what does solve the problem is by organizing a community group, writing to your councilman and expressing your views. Backing it up by action if your voice is rejected you try to change the approach and if they ignore you fight against them by publishing how their innaction on a particular issues effect their constituancy.

    Granted you need composure and focus in persuing the route beforehand but if you do feel about the issue that vihimently I suggest you try the route mensioned earlier it might create a worthwhile outlet and maybe even bring results you seek.

    I personally think if someone came out with a new party ideal in Britain like lower taxes higher enforcement of security to wind down crime. A lot would flock to them. Hell the biggest problem is approaching different issues correctly and marketing them accordingly. Its not "anti-immigrant laws" that need to be pushed but "higher security enforcement". I am all for legal immigration but the key word here is "legal".
     
  17. Vienna Registered Senior Member

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    Yes I agree with you. Going through the correct channels can affect government policies but the process is eternal; there is a sense of obvious emergency here and the government is not acting quick enough. A bill can be immediately passed through Parliament in such emergencies. When the UK is hit just watch new policies fly though Parliament. Its the same old story - someone has to suffer before something is done - preventive measures are unheard of. As for legal and illegal immigration, thats a joke. The doors to this country need to be slammed shut - for its own safety and survival. The East Europeans have now jumped on this bandwagon and coming to Britain in droves - the British public has had enough and something is going to blow - perhaps literally.
     
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  18. Whirlwind Banned Banned

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    Interesting, with the English having sold out Palestine to the Zionists in 1917 (Balfour Declaration), selling the land and destroying millions of lives, right from under the Arab inhabitants.

    With all of English's abuses on the people in the Middle East and South Africa (Remember Shaka Kahn who had to kick the English in the teeth to gain freedom for his people, the Zulu's?), I find these "macho words" "Attack my country and I'll fight back no matter what or where you are," a bunch of self serving bull caca.

    Hey England, "TIME TO PAY THE PIPER" for 400 years of your sinning and when BIG BEN is shown on TV burning and Londonary is in flames, the world will say (As "Don't cry for me Argentina" plays in the background): "What goes around comes around!"

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  19. Whirlwind Banned Banned

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    Hey Hungfoo, are you kin to anyone in the German Gestapo?

    (And I thought Herr Ashcroft was a fascist!).

    Whirlwind....
     
  20. Vienna Registered Senior Member

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    Not caca - very sincere words - I invite you to test them

    You're no whirlwind - you are just rejected air from a pigs arse. And when the UK is attacked people like you will feel the brunt of it, I predict that the British public will take matters into their own hands.
     
  21. leda Registered Senior Member

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    Vienna, what exactly should the British public do when we take matters into our own hands? I've always liked the idea of an uprising of the people, but what would it consist of?
     
  22. Vienna Registered Senior Member

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    Amongst other things I predict riots like those of Oldham and such, but on a grand scale.
     
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  23. leda Registered Senior Member

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    What would this achieve?
     

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