Entropy in everyday life

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  1. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Not with pH, I think. But the free energy and Nernst equation examples are physical manifestations, it seems to me, so long as you accept that free energy is a physical manifestation. That of course could be something of a discussion in itself, since free energy is enthalpy less entropy x temp (G=H-TS)

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  3. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    The thing is that it's all connected in some relative way.

    Moreover, as entropy seems to be a process affecting everything, many seemingly unrelated phenomena can be produced as examples of entropy.
    IOW, entropy will eventually cause the universe to settle in its lowest energetic state, or as I call it "movement in the direction of greatest mathematical satisfaction" i.e. stasis.
     
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  5. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Thank you. I had never noticed the word "enthalpy" before, but it seems to be a very important word.....

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    And directly related to the concept "entropy"?

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    https://www.thoughtco.com/definition-of-enthalpy-605091
     
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  7. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    yes
    if you do nothing you die
    if you do everything you die
    if you do somewhere between nothing and everything you dont die so quickly as doing one of the 2 other options.

    human relationships are much the same
    this defines emotional environments and consequential self image

    constructs of self fulfillment are defined by an entropic balance
    i have been quietly pondering this for a year or soo.

    postulation...
    you can not make room for yourself unless you push others(others includes the self) out of the way
     
  8. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    The diagram is making the point that they are different. There is no need in invoke entropy in an explanation of enthalpy.

    This thread is not about enthalpy, so embarking on a discussion of it would be derailing the thread. You are welcome to start one on enthalpy, if you are interested, under either physics or chemistry, and I will be happy to take part (so long as you leave microtubules and Bohm out of and promise not mention the words "function" or "potential").

    I notice you were not interested enough in the issue you raised about heat change on inflating a balloon to take up my previous similar offer, though.
     
  9. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    As I understood it;
    https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-opposite-of-entropy

    I thought this relationship to entropy might be of interest to other less knowledgeable persons such as myself.
     
  10. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Enthalpy comes up in my spell check on my phone. My phone knows more than me. :-}
     
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  12. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Your phone has no idea what it means, though.
     
  13. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    No? I'll bet if she asked it, it would tell her what it means.

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  14. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Good one

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  15. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Haha, touché, possibly.

    But - as we are in the philosophy section - it would still do so by just looking up a definition and repeating it, without understanding (a bit likeWrite4U

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  17. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Sun on the brick you have mentioned will expand it via heating and brick will shrink when cooling

    If it happens to rain the rain will etch off a few atoms

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  18. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    solar wind on the brick ?
    cosmic rays on the brick ?

    if there is no radiation hitting the brick and it is atmospheric heating, then sun is a deliberate miss direction

    the brick is probably a lie
    is a brick still a brick when it has no other bricks to be a brick with ?
    and the heater/oven might still be on so better go back and check it

    maybe the brick is an alien and has no license to use the sun

    Captain, we found a brick
    is it pulling us or are we pulling it ?

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  19. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    solar wind on the brick ?
    cosmic rays on the brick ?

    Sure

    if there is no radiation hitting the brick and it is atmospheric heating, then sun is a deliberate miss direction

    (?)

    the brick is probably a lie
    is a brick still a brick when it has noother bricks to be a brick with ?

    Yes

    and the heater/oven might still be on so better go back and check it

    maybe the brick is an alien and has no license to use the sun

    Sure possible

    Captain, we found a brick
    is it pulling us or are we pulling it ?

    Switch off our puller and try to back away, if we can't, shields up and engage photon canons

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  20. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Those are not units; those are effects.

    How many "ages" is the brick today?

    I think you are saying this tongue-in-cheek, so I won't make a big deal.
     
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  21. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    You got me

    There are none

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    Are mechanisms which act on things (ie bricks) which increase entropy ie change

    You can look (at the brick) any moment during said change and label it as the AGE of the brick up to the moment, from your arbitrary start point

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  22. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Give me a starting moment in your preferred age unit and I will calculate how many of your preferred age units have passed up until your arbitrary stop moment

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  23. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Yesterday at 1130 AM.
    The brick expanded in the sun, then contracted at night. Now it's the same size.
    I guess it did not age?
     
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