Ethics, Morality and Justice indeed! How about damn Inane Stupidity

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by paddoboy, Jul 27, 2020.

  1. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Parts of Australia appear to be going through a second phase of covid19...So much so, that lockdown and the wearing of masks has become a requirement now in Victoria.......
    And out of the woodwork comes Idiots like this stupid sheila [who goes by the name of Karen]who flaunted her stupidity at a Bunnings Hardware store and a Post Office, by refusing to wear a mask, claiming human rights of all things and then ranting and raving about conventions etc..
    If any good has come out of this silly woman's action, it is the great restraint shown by the staff and Police.
    Here is the story.....
    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/the-pse...ne-anti-maskers-and-why-they-are-so-dangerous
    The 'pseudo-legal' arguments used by Melbourne anti-maskers and why they are so dangerous:

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    Nice little video she recorded herself about a third of the way down the page when confronting Bunnings staff with her nonsensical pretentious arguments and supposed rights.
    extract from article......
    Dangerous' consequences?
    Associate Professor Beck said there was a common thread in what anti-maskers were saying.

    "All of this seems to come from or have affinities with the sovereign citizen movement," he said.

    "These people make these kinds of pseudo-legal arguments, usually to try and get out of parking fines or paying council rates or things like that."

    "Some of these people think if you utter particular words or emphasise particular 'facts', it will somehow get you out of things."
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    Hear is another with her finally and justifiably being arrested.

    Here is the idiot again....
    https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=219612359270692
    And another of the happy moment she was arrested after attempting to talk her way out of it.......
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/n...-Karen-refuses-wear-mask-berates-workers.html
    Video: 'Bunnings Karen' vows to SUE cops over her arrest after confronting staff at a hardware store - as her out-there theories on social media are exposed
    'Bunnings Karen' refuses to wear a mask inside a Melbourne store and then berates workers for telling her it's company policy - only to be arrested in the car park moments later.
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    Lock the fool up and throw away the keys.
     
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  3. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Here we have some more craziness and the conspiracies such craziness are fabricated in......
    https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/?main=https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/welcome/

    A large group of conspiracy theorist have gathered in Melbourne, with a woman who filmed herself driving through a police checkpoint as a key speaker.

    Eve Black, who calls the pandemic a “SCAMdemic” on social media and uploaded a video of her interaction with officers at a lockdown checkpoint last week — drawing widespread criticism.

    She spoke at a large conspiracy theory gathering at a Cranbourne gym.

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    One attendee posted a photo of the meeting on Facebook which showed the group were not social distancing or wearing masks.

    He wrote; “A great night together discussing the putrid conduct of the police, government and media lies.”

    “We are strong and won’t bow down to these oppressors,” he said.
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    Sounds rather like the fool that America now has for President, and some of his adherents and followers on this forum...
     
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  5. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    I wonder if she and the other bag of nuts at their meeting are in anyway associated with this nutty orginization.....
    https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounders/qanon
    • QAnon is a wide-reaching conspiracy theory popular among a range of right-wing extremists and even some public supporters of President Trump.
    • QAnon, surfaced in 2017 on 4chan, is first and foremost an online trolling and disinformation movement. While it is difficult to gauge the size of the movement, it is likely that QAnon adherents number in the tens of thousands.
    • Adherents follow the anonymous Q, and believe world governments are being controlled by a shadowy cabal of pedophiles (who will eventually be brought to justice by President Trump).
    • The QAnon theory is scattershot and sprawling and includes antisemitic and anti-government elements; its adherents actively sow distrust in democratic institutions.
    • While the ADL does not believe that all QAnon adherents are inherently extremists, this is a dangerous theory that has inspired violent acts.
    • more at link
     
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    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/06/qanon-nothing-can-stop-what-is-coming/610567/

    If you were an adherent, no one would be able to tell. You would look like any other American. You could be a mother, picking leftovers off your toddler’s plate. You could be the young man in headphones across the street. You could be a bookkeeper, a dentist, a grandmother icing cupcakes in her kitchen. You may well have an affiliation with an evangelical church. But you are hard to identify just from the way you look—which is good, because someday soon dark forces may try to track you down. You understand this sounds crazy, but you don’t care. You know that a small group of manipulators, operating in the shadows, pull the planet’s strings. You know that they are powerful enough to abuse children without fear of retribution. You know that the mainstream media are their handmaidens, in partnership with Hillary Clinton and the secretive denizens of the deep state. You know that only Donald Trump stands between you and a damned and ravaged world. You see plague and pestilence sweeping the planet, and understand that they are part of the plan. You know that a clash between good and evil cannot be avoided, and you yearn for the Great Awakening that is coming. And so you must be on guard at all times. You must shield your ears from the scorn of the ignorant. You must find those who are like you. And you must be prepared to fight.

    You know all this because you believe in Q.

    I. GENESIS
    the origins of QAnon are recent, but even so, separating myth from reality can be hard. One place to begin is with Edgar Maddison Welch, a deeply religious father of two, who until Sunday, December 4, 2016, had lived an unremarkable life in the small town of Salisbury, North Carolina. That morning, Welch grabbed his cellphone, a box of shotgun shells, and three loaded guns—a 9-mm AR-15 rifle, a six-shot .38‑caliber Colt revolver, and a shotgun—and hopped into his Toyota Prius. He drove 360 miles to a well-to-do neighborhood in Northwest Washington, D.C.; parked his car; put the revolver in a holster at his hip; held the AR-15 rifle across his chest; and walked through the front door of a pizzeria called Comet Ping Pong.

    more at link...
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    Sad, so very sad.
     
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    Bunnings Karen ‘a neighbour from hell’
    Victorians are spreading conspiracy theories online and breaching social-distancing rules in organised defiance of health regulations.
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    She has also claimed to be a Psychic and an exorcist.
    A real typical right wing redneck nutter!!!
     
  9. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    And another Nut tries to flout the law under the pretense of civil rights and choice!!
    https://www.theage.com.au/national/...eo-arrested-in-melbourne-20200729-p55gpw.html

    Eve Black, woman from Bunyip checkpoint video, arrested in Melbourne:

    A woman who posted a video of herself breaching coronavirus restrictions has been arrested by police, who broke her car window after she refused to cooperate for a second time.

    Eve Black, 28, from Warrandyte, was arrested following a vehicle intercept on Princes Street in Carlton about 2pm on Wednesday.

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    Eve Black in the border checkpoint video, which she posted online.

    A police spokesman said Ms Black was asked for her name and address, her licence and an explanation for why she was travelling - all of which she refused to give.

    "During the arrest, police were forced to break the woman’s car window as she refused to speak to them, wind down her window, or step out of the vehicle," the spokesman said.

    "The woman has been released pending summons for traffic-related offences, failing to produce a licence, failing to produce name and address, and breaches of the Chief Health Officer’s directives."

    Police pulled over Ms Black's car on Wednesday to speak with her about an incident last week, when she filmed herself refusing to comply with an officer at a checkpoint in Bunyip in Gippsland, south-east of Melbourne.

    The video, which has now been taken down, shows Ms Black saying "Let's do it, let's take them down," as she drives towards the checkpoint.

    She appears to read from a piece of paper as she refuses to open her window and demands repeatedly: "Have I committed a crime?". She then celebrates as the officer tells her to drive through the checkpoint.


    The post drew a furious response from social media users, who accused the woman of acting dangerously.

    Victorian Police Minister Lisa Neville lambasted the woman's actions last Friday.

    "Let’s be incredibly clear, that footage shows an incredibly selfish person who deliberately attempted to cause issues for police," she said.
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    Lock both the fools up until this pandemic is over...6 months, 12 months or whatever.
     
  10. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Want to guess as to which suburb is seeing a larger-than-average spike in Corona cases at the moment? It might be unrelated, of course...
     
  11. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    If you have any info your welcome to share it...otherwise, I'm at a loss to understand what you are trying to say.
    This thread is about the pretentious fucking idiots, pushing what they see as there rights to do what they like in this pandemic, whether it is against the law or not. They appear to be extreme right wing ratbags.
     
  12. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    A lady I know is making masks ..personalised...one that most folk seem to go for says "If I can punch you in the face you are probably standing too close"...
    Alex
     
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    After my detection test and clearance, I was advised by my good Doctor to start wearing a mask anyway...which I have when shopping etc.The problem I find is that my glasses keep fogging up...anyone know any solution to avoid this or stop it from happening?
     
  14. Bells Staff Member

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    It could be that the mask is not fitted to your face properly or the gap at the top is too big.

    It depends on the mask you are using to be honest. The little disposable ones? If it has the little clip/internal shaper thing on the bridge of the nose, make sure that is securely shaped to your face with no gaps.

    If you can, depending on the mask you are using and if it is big enough and will not result in gaps at the bottom, you can pull it up a bit, secure it around the upper bridge of your nose, and then put your glasses on so that the bottom rim is resting on top of the mask and is pressing it down against your skin, reducing that gap there.

    You can also buy light surgical tape from the chemist and use it across the top to ensure there are no gaps.
     
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    He is saying the suburb having a spike at the moment is the suburb you brought up in your previous post:

    Cranbourne is one of the south east suburbs Victorians had been advised to not visit..
     
  16. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Thanks for that...will try the last tip first along with fitting my glasses over the mask.
    The other point which I failed to mention, was that for whatever reason, I seem to labour when breathing with the mask, which probably adds to the problem. That has not nor will it stop me from adhering to the advice.

    I also when I was working for ICI [now known as ORICA] had need to wear long distant breather apparatus....For whatever reason I was also having problems breathing with them, and on occasion would breath in the gas [Chlorine] which I was supposedly to be protected from.
    There were accusations that I was not fitting my face piece properly, until they started to put me through some tests. It was found that when I fitted the face piece correctly, and verified correctly, and after simulated work stress, that I was actually breathing so hard, that I was "concaving" the exhaust valve which was positioned directly in front of my mouth!
    New breather face pieces were obtained with the exhaust valve off set to the side, and there was no more problems...I was vindicated!!
    So I'm a heavy breather?
    Chlorine isn't a very pleasant taste by the way.
     
  17. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Ahh, OK!
     
  18. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    The following illustrates the exhaust valve to the side, which alleviated the problem I was having.
    The earlier, older version, had that exhaust valve in the front near the mouth

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  19. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    her real name is probably
    Shiela B Banghard
     
  20. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    Ried Butler has sexy eyes but would like to see without the make up

    loving the illegal gathering of supremacist anti mask underground
    its so feral & anti establishment
    are they all signing club policy statements being anti-fascist also ?

    like the little child clutching at all the toys about to throw them over the fence so no one else can play with them because they cant hold on to them all as they take them off all the other kids

    "feral town councils" lol

    watching the video of those 2 shiela B's(BangHard[oh so porn queen wanna B])
    they have that cannon fodder sales team mentality
    they think as long as they really really believe it, it will be true and their morality is leant up against it as a crutch to their delusional personality disorder.

    sad shiela's

    Shiela B Banghard apprentice Porn Queen
    Do me like i do you baby
     
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  21. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    there are anti fogging compounds you can apply to the glass
    simply by having the top part of your mask sealed so your breath cant come up past your nose as Bells eludes to "fitting"
    will make a difference

    however, leaning forward slightly will fog them up as you breath
    the only real alternative is to have a mouth area high flow mask
    probably very expensive

    alternatively
    have you glasses positioned on your head and only lower them to read things for a moment
    ensuring you have a flexible foam strap secured to something so they wont hit the ground if they fall off
     
  22. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    so she is doing it for self promotion
    seeking to entrench herself in to the right wing conspiracy groups to make money off them to be their porn queen
    sad

    she is likely to step out in front of a buss sooner or later

    sad bitch
    not getting any at home so going out to try and fuck with everyone else
    she should just go to a sex shop and & talk to someone, they will help her out.

    said the Viagra sales woman

    Sexocisms are the right
    bookings in advance !
    huge package deals accommodated
     
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  23. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    There was some talk on the early morning TV news today, about the intention of a group of right wing, "snivel libertarians" conducting a protest in Melbourne today...the coppers will come down hard on anyone attending in the current climate.

    Here's another incident and similar nutty individual......
    https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/heal...fficers-after-refusing-to-wear-mask-c-1218910

    A Melbourne man has filmed himself refusing to wear a mask in Melbourne before protective service officers tell him he is under arrest.

    In the bizarre footage, Nick Patterson tells the train station security officers “what you’re doing is evil” for enforcing the mandatory face mask rule.

    Watch anti-masker arguing with security officers in the video above.

    The two masked officers keep their cool as Patterson questions their right to make him wear a mask.

    “I’m not answering any of your questions,” he says.

    “I haven’t committed any crime.

    “You’re a PSO, not a police officer, you cannot detain.”

    He goes on to say he has an exemption but will not tell the officers the reason for the exemption because it’s of “a private nature.”

    “If you arrest me, it will be a false arrest and I’ll be taking you for deprivation of liberty.”

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    He then asks the officers for their personal information before zooming in on their name tags and calling them “the harassment squad.”

    As the officers move to arrest him, the camera switches off.

    Later, Patterson filmed a second video where he describes living under a “totalitarian dictatorship” and “full communism” arguing that his “human rights” were under threat.

    “You can’t talk to them any more, you can’t reason with them, you can’t have a conversation with them,” he complains.

    On July 27, Patterson claimed on Facebook to have attended a meeting in the Melbourne suburb of Cranbourne, purportedly to discuss flouting anti-coronavirus measures in Melbourne.

    “A great night together discussing the putrid conduct of the police, government and media lies,” Patterson wrote on Facebook.

    “We are strong and won’t bow down to these oppressors.”
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    Fair dinkum, I'm not exaggerating, they should grab all these "snivel Libertarians"up, lock them away somewhere, until all this eventually blows over.

    The most noticable thing, in the three incidents I have posted in this thread, is the coolness and professionalism of the cops involved.
     

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