Evolution Is Just An Emergent Property Of the Action Of Consciousness

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  1. gmilam Valued Senior Member

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    A virus evolves and, AFAIK, it isn't even alive. Is a virus conscious?
     
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  3. Steve Klinko Registered Senior Member

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    Here is the last sentence from the OP:
    Using this perspective we might be able to say that Evolution does not even exist as a Thing in Itself, but rather Evolution is just an Emergent Property of the Action of Consciousness in the Universe.

    You should not ignore the word "might". The purpose of the OP hyperbole is to get people thinking about the possibility that Consciousness actually does affect Evolution.

    It is a logical conclusion to state that Consciousness itself can influence Evolution. Evolution is not a completely Mindless, Bio Electrical Chemical, DNA Mutating, Environmentally Influenced process. Rather, Evolution is driven by a combination of primitive Conscious Desires, Bio Electrical Chemical processes, Random DNA Mutations, and Environmental Influences.
     
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  5. gmilam Valued Senior Member

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    Ah, another intelligent design variant.

    How would one even test the idea of a conscious universe?
     
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  7. Dicart Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, Uri Geller was very probably doing some tricks, but now imagine he would do it for real in his own material body (ouside his body... this would be spooky action).
    Thats what i meant and this is what could be free will.
     
  8. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Nope.
     
  9. Dicart Registered Senior Member

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    Ok, so you think that every time there is a question there will be always only one answer (for all questions) : This is because of the Big Bang.
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  10. Dicart Registered Senior Member

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    It is very simple : Superiority.
    If you would bet between the one who has free will and the one who can only follow the natural laws (so pre determined), who will have superiority if there is conflict ?
     
  11. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Conflict...

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    So, your experiment involves putting two universes in a ring and having them duke it out?
     
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  12. river

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    Life .

    Life is conscious of the Universe . We Humans are conscious of the Universe . Hence the Universe is conscious .

    ALL Advanced Beings , All Advanced Being , Everywhere in this Universe are conscious of our Universe . Even at the time of Ancient History , 6000yrs ago they are aware of the Universe .
     
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  13. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Also nope.
     
  14. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Drivel.
    Humans are not the universe.
     
  15. river

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    The Periodic Table is not about Life . The Table is about Matter . Its energy , bonds and therefore structure .

    Agreed . We are part of it . Because we Humans are conscious so must thousands of other Advanced Beings , be as well . Inotherwords Life Only is Conscious , and is everywhere in this Universe .
     
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  16. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Which does NOT = "the universe is conscious".
    1) Doesn't necessarily follow, and
    2) So far there is no evidence of "advanced beings".
     
  17. river

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    Not in the periodic table .

    But it does , since the Universe has Life . Awareness .
     
  18. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Faulty logic (as usual).
     
  19. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    WHY all the speculation?

    He is a fraud, pure and simple

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  20. river

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    Lets discuss the my logic then . I have no problem with doing so .
     
  21. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    I know there are some weird ideas out there but this is bending the Weird Ideas Meter Needle going well past Weirdest

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  22. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    "Which does NOT = "the universe is conscious".
    Dywyddyr: I think you are dismissing river too hastily. Look:

    There is a radio in my car.
    It can play 80s tunes.
    It directly follows that there are radios "everywhere" in my car. (River's Postulate #1)
    And, since they can all play 80s music...
    It directly follows that my entire car, itself, is a radio that plays 80s tunes. (River's Postulate #2)

    This is Direct River Logic. AKA DRiveL.
     
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  23. river

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    Radios play a variety of music .

    Evolution .
     

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