Famous Muslim Inventions & Scientific Breakthroughs!!!!

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  1. vincent Sir Vincent, knighted by HM Registered Senior Member

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    Famous Muslim Inventions & Scientific Breakthroughs

    Sorry I Tried Searching Google But Could Not Find Any
     
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  3. Leo Volont Registered Senior Member

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    The Mathamatical Concept of Zero as a place holder came out of Islam. Imagine trying to do math without a Zero, but until the idea of Zero came out of the Islamic World, western mathamaticians were struggling along without it. Roman Numerals were still in wide use. Can you even DO long division with Roman Numerals? Anyway, with the concept of Zero, it made possible what we now understand as Arithamatic, and the West quickly adopted the other Arabic Numbers.
     
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  5. fadeaway humper that way lies madness Registered Senior Member

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    By about 300 BC, the Babylonians had started to use a basic numeral system and were using two slanted wedges to mark an empty space. However, this symbol did not have any true function other than to be a placeholder. The use of zero as a number unto itself was a relatively late addition to mathematics, first introduced by Indian mathematicians. An early study of the zero by Brahmagupta dates to 628.

    Zero was also used as a numeral in Pre-Columbian Mesoamerica. It was used by the Olmec and subsequent civiliations; see also: Maya numerals.

    Source: wikipedia
     
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  7. vincent Sir Vincent, knighted by HM Registered Senior Member

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    The Mathamatical Concept of Zero

    was devised by the mayas
    who are not muslim

    try again





    Native Americans of Middle and South America

    The Maya conceived of the concept of zero, an advanced mathematical concept, centuries before the symbol for zero was used by Hindu mathematicians in India. Mayan astronomers carefully observed the heavens and worked out the movements of celestial bodies and the recurrences of eclipses.

    http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_701509044_2/Native_Americans_of_Middle_and_South_America.html
     
  8. vincent Sir Vincent, knighted by HM Registered Senior Member

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    fadeaway humper

    seems to have done better research than mr leo volont
     
  9. Leo Volont Registered Senior Member

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    Have you ever heard of "re-inventing the wheel".

    There is no way that the West derived its use of Zero from the Mayans. It would be retarded to think that the Old World did not independently INVENT the concept of Zero.
     
  10. surenderer Registered Senior Member

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    You've allready been embarrsed in a previous thread on this same topic one example from Webster Online:

    Main Entry: al·ge·bra
    Pronunciation: 'al-j&-br&
    Function: noun
    Etymology: Medieval Latin, from ARABIC- AL-JABR- literally, the reduction
    1 : a generalization of arithmetic in which letters representing numbers are combined according to the rules of arithmetic
    2 : any of various systems or branches of mathematics or logic concerned with the properties and relationships of abstract entities (as complex numbers, matrices, sets, vectors, groups, rings, or fields) manipulated in symbolic form under operations often analogous to those of arithmetic



    Plenty of other examples(i can post more also):


    What is Taught: The first mention of man in flight was by Roger Bacon, who drew a flying apparatus. Leonardo da Vinci also conceived of airborne transport and drew several prototypes.

    What Should be Taught: Ibn Firnas of Islamic Spain invented, constructed and tested a flying machine in the 800's A.D. Roger Bacon learned of flying machines from Arabic references to Ibn Firnas' machine. The latter's invention antedates Bacon by 500 years and Da Vinci by some 700 years.

    What is Taught: Glass mirrors were first produced in 1291 in Venice.

    What Should be Taught: Glass mirrors were in use in Islamic Spain as early as the 11th century. The Venetians learned of the art of fine glass production from Syrian artisans during the 9th and 10th centuries.

    What is Taught: Until the 14th century, the only type of clock available was the water clock. In 1335, a large mechanical clock was erected in Milan, Italy. This was possibly the first weight-driven clock.

    What Should be Taught: A variety of mechanical clocks were produced by Spanish Muslim engineers, both large and small, and this knowledge was transmitted to Europe through Latin translations of Islamic books on mechanics. These clocks were weight-driven. Designs and illustrations of epi-cyclic and segmental gears were provided. One such clock included a mercury escapement. The latter type was directly copied by Europeans during the 15th century. In addition, during the 9th century, Ibn Firnas of Islamic Spain, according to Will Durant, invented a watch-like device which kept accurate time. The Muslims also constructed a variety of highly accurate astronomical clocks for use in their observatories.

    What is Taught: In the 17th century, the pendulum was developed by Galileo during his teenage years. He noticed a chandelier swaying as it was being blown by the wind. As a result, he went home and invented the pendulum.

    What Should be Taught: The pendulum was discovered by Ibn Yunus al-Masri during the 10th century, who was the first to study and document its oscillatory motion. Its value for use in clocks was introduced by Muslim physicists during the 15th century.

    What is Taught: Movable type and the printing press was invented in the West by Johannes Gutenberg of Germany during the 15th century.

    What Should be Taught: In 1454, Gutenberg developed the most sophisticated printing press of the Middle Ages. However, movable brass type was in use in Islamic Spain 100 years prior, and that is where the West's first printing devices were made.

    What is Taught: Isaac Newton's 17th century study of lenses, light and prisms forms the foundation of the modern science of optics.

    What Should be Taught: In the 1lth century al-Haytham determined virtually everything that Newton advanced regarding optics centuries prior and is regarded by numerous authorities as the "founder of optics. " There is little doubt that Newton was influenced by him. Al-Haytham was the most quoted physicist of the Middle Ages. His works were utilized and quoted by a greater number of European scholars during the 16th and 17th centuries than those of Newton and Galileo combined.

    What is Taught: Isaac Newton, during the 17th century, discovered that white light consists of various rays of colored light.

    What Should be Taught: This discovery was made in its entirety by al-Haytham (1lth century) and Kamal ad-Din (14th century). Newton did make original discoveries, but this was not one of them.

    What is Taught: The concept of the finite nature of matter was first introduced by Antione Lavoisier during the 18th century. He discovered that, although matter may change its form or shape, its mass always remains the same. Thus, for instance, if water is heated to steam, if salt is dissolved in water or if a piece of wood is burned to ashes, the total mass remains unchanged.

    What Should be Taught: The principles of this discovery were elaborated centuries before by Islamic Persia's great scholar, al-Biruni (d. 1050). Lavoisier was a disciple of the Muslim chemists and physicists and referred to their books frequently.



    What is Taught: The Greeks were the developers of trigonometry.

    What Should be Taught: Trigonometry remained largely a theoretical science among the Greeks. It was developed to a level of modern perfection by Muslim scholars, although the weight of the credit must be given to al-Battani. The words describing the basic functions of this science, sine, cosine and tangent, are all derived from Arabic terms. Thus, original contributions by the Greeks in trigonometry were minimal.

    What is Taught: The use of decimal fractions in mathematics was first developed by a Dutchman, Simon Stevin, in 1589. He helped advance the mathematical sciences by replacing the cumbersome fractions, for instance, 1/2, with decimal fractions, for example, 0.5.

    What Should be Taught: Muslim mathematicians were the first to utilize decimals instead of fractions on a large scale. Al-Kashi's book, Key to Arithmetic, was written at the beginning of the 15th century and was the stimulus for the systematic application of decimals to whole numbers and fractions thereof. It is highly probably that Stevin imported the idea to Europe from al-Kashi's work.

    What is Taught: The first man to utilize algebraic symbols was the French mathematician, Francois Vieta. In 1591, he wrote an algebra book describing equations with letters such as the now familiar x and y's. Asimov says that this discovery had an impact similar to the progression from Roman numerals to Arabic numbers.

    What Should be Taught: Muslim mathematicians, the inventors of algebra, introduced the concept of using letters for unknown variables in equations as early as the 9th century A.D. Through this system, they solved a variety of complex equations, including quadratic and cubic equations. They used symbols to develop and perfect the binomial theorem.

    What is Taught: The difficult cubic equations (x to the third power) remained unsolved until the 16th century when Niccolo Tartaglia, an Italian mathematician, solved them.

    What Should be Taught: Cubic equations as well as numerous equations of even higher degrees were solved with ease by Muslim mathematicians as early as the 10th century.

    What is Taught: The concept that numbers could be less than zero, that is negative numbers, was unknown until 1545 when Geronimo Cardano introduced the idea.

    What Should he Taught: Muslim mathematicians introduced negative numbers for use in a variety of arithmetic functions at least 400 years prior to Cardano.

    What is Taught: In 1614, John Napier invented logarithms and logarithmic tables.

    What Should be Taught: Muslim mathematicians invented logarithms and produced logarithmic tables several centuries prior. Such tables were common in the Islamic world as early as the 13th century.

    What is Taught: During the 17th century Rene Descartes made the discovery that algebra could be used to solve geometrical problems. By this, he greatly advanced the science of geometry.

    What Should be Taught: Mathematicians of the Islamic Empire accomplished precisely this as early as the 9th century A.D. Thabit bin Qurrah was the first to do so, and he was followed by Abu'l Wafa, whose 10th century book utilized algebra to advance geometry into an exact and simplified science.

    What is Taught: Isaac Newton, during the 17th century, developed the binomial theorem, which is a crucial component for the study of algebra.

    What Should be Taught: Hundreds of Muslim mathematicians utilized and perfected the binomial theorem. They initiated its use for the systematic solution of algebraic problems during the 10th century (or prior).

    What is Taught: No improvement had been made in the astronomy of the ancients during the Middle Ages regarding the motion of planets until the 13th century. Then Alphonso the Wise of Castile (Middle Spain) invented the Aphonsine Tables, which were more accurate than Ptolemy's.

    What Should be Taught: Muslim astronomers made numerous improvements upon Ptolemy's findings as early as the 9th century. They were the first astronomers to dispute his archaic ideas. In their critic of the Greeks, they synthesized proof that the sun is the center of the solar system and that the orbits of the earth and other planets might be elliptical. They produced hundreds of highly accurate astronomical tables and star charts. Many of their calculations are so precise that they are regarded as contemporary. The AlphonsineTables are little more than copies of works on astronomy transmitted to Europe via Islamic Spain, i.e. the Toledo Tables.

    What is Taught: The English scholar Roger Bacon (d. 1292) first mentioned glass lenses for improving vision. At nearly the same time, eyeglasses could be found in use both in China and Europe.

    What Should be Taught: Ibn Firnas of Islamic Spain invented eyeglasses during the 9th century, and they were manufactured and sold throughout Spain for over two centuries. Any mention of eyeglasses by Roger Bacon was simply a regurgitation of the work of al-Haytham (d. 1039), whose research Bacon frequently referred to.

    What is Taught: Gunpowder was developed in the Western world as a result of Roger Bacon's work in 1242. The first usage of gunpowder in weapons was when the Chinese fired it from bamboo shoots in attempt to frighten Mongol conquerors. They produced it by adding sulfur and charcoal to saltpeter.

    What Should be Taught: The Chinese developed saltpeter for use in fireworks and knew of no tactical military use for gunpowder, nor did they invent its formula. Research by Reinuad and Fave have clearly shown that gunpowder was formulated initially by Muslim chemists. Further, these historians claim that the Muslims developed the first fire-arms. Notably, Muslim armies used grenades and other weapons in their defence of Algericus against the Franks during the 14th century. Jean Mathes indicates that the Muslim rulers had stock-piles of grenades, rifles, crude cannons, incendiary devices, sulfur bombs and pistols decades before such devices were used in Europe. The first mention of a cannon was in an Arabic text around 1300 A.D. Roger Bacon learned of the formula for gunpowder from Latin translations of Arabic books. He brought forth nothing original in this regard.

    What is Taught: The compass was invented by the Chinese who may have been the first to use it for navigational purposes sometime between 1000 and 1100 A.D. The earliest reference to its use in navigation was by the Englishman, Alexander Neckam (1157-1217).

    What Should be Taught: Muslim geographers and navigators learned of the magnetic needle, possibly from the Chinese, and were the first to use magnetic needles in navigation. They invented the compass and passed the knowledge of its use in navigation to the West. European navigators relied on Muslim pilots and their instruments when exploring unknown territories. Gustav Le Bon claims that the magnetic needle and compass were entirely invented by the Muslims and that the Chinese had little to do with it. Neckam, as well as the Chinese, probably learned of it from Muslim traders. It is noteworthy that the Chinese improved their navigational expertise after they began interacting with the Muslims during the 8th century.



    What is Taught: The first man to classify the races was the German Johann F. Blumenbach, who divided mankind into white, yellow, brown, black and red peoples.

    What Should be Taught: Muslim scholars of the 9th through 14th centuries invented the science of ethnography. A number of Muslim geographers classified the races, writing detailed explanations of their unique cultural habits and physical appearances. They wrote thousands of pages on this subject. Blumenbach's works were insignificant in comparison.

    What is Taught: The science of geography was revived during the 15th, 16th and 17th centuries when the ancient works of Ptolemy were discovered. The Crusades and the Portuguese/Spanish expeditions also contributed to this reawakening. The first scientifically-based treatise on geography were produced during this period by Europe's scholars.

    What Should be Taught: Muslim geographers produced untold volumes of books on the geography of Africa, Asia, India, China and the Indies during the 8th through 15th centuries. These writings included the world's first geographical encyclopedias, almanacs and road maps. Ibn Battutah's 14th century masterpieces provide a detailed view of the geography of the ancient world. The Muslim geographers of the 10th through 15th centuries far exceeded the output by Europeans regarding the geography of these regions well into the 18th century. The Crusades led to the destruction of educational institutions, their scholars and books. They brought nothing substantive regarding geography to the Western world.



    What is Taught: Robert Boyle, in the 17th century, originated the science of chemistry.

    What Should be Taught: A variety of Muslim chemists, including ar-Razi, al-Jabr, al-Biruni and al-Kindi, performed scientific experiments in chemistry some 700 years prior to Boyle. Durant writes that the Muslims introduced the experimental method to this science. Humboldt regards the Muslims as the founders of chemistry.

    What is Taught: Leonardo da Vinci (16th century) fathered the science of geology when he noted that fossils found on mountains indicated a watery origin of the earth.

    What Should be Taught: Al-Biruni (1lth century) made precisely this observation and added much to it, including a huge book on geology, hundreds of years before Da Vinci was born. Ibn Sina noted this as well (see pages 100-101). it is probable that Da Vinci first learned of this concept from Latin translations of Islamic books. He added nothing original to their findings.

    What is Taught: The first mention of the geological formation of valleys was in 1756, when Nicolas Desmarest proposed that they were formed over a long periods of time by streams.

    What Should be Taught: Ibn Sina and al-Biruni made precisely this discovery during the 11th century (see pages 102 and 103), fully 700 years prior to Desmarest.

    What is Taught: Galileo (17th century) was the world's first great experimenter.

    What Should be Taught: Al-Biruni (d. 1050) was the world's first great experimenter. He wrote over 200 books, many of which discuss his precise experiments. His literary output in the sciences amounts to some 13,000 pages, far exceeding that written by Galileo or, for that matter, Galileo and Newton combined.



    You can say you hate the religion which is fine but to belittle the people who practice it only makes you look and sound ignorant
     
  11. Godless Objectivist Mind Registered Senior Member

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    Well surenderer I think you've stumped him!!

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    Good going.

    Godless.
     
  12. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    We should have a 'famous atheist inventions & scientific breakthroughs' thread.
     
  13. Godless Objectivist Mind Registered Senior Member

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    Well here is a good start!

    start here.

    then you can look here

    So get to work!. I've alredy provided some info for ya!.

    Godless.
     
  14. vincent Sir Vincent, knighted by HM Registered Senior Member

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    WELL SURRENDER AS USUAL

    YOUR FAMOUS MUSLIM INVENTORS ARE COMPLETE BULLSHIT PARDON MY FRENCH

    LETS DISMISS THEM ONE AT A TIME

    1.The Weight-driven Clock

    The Weight-driven Clock

    No one knows the inventor or the exact date of invention of the weight-driven clock but Europe suddenly exploded with a profusion of them in the early fourteenth century.
    http://www.britannica.com/clockworks/t_weight.html


    2.GLASS MIRRORS
    The two-way mirror was originally called the "transparent mirror". The first* US patent goes to Emil Bloch, a subject of the Emperor of Russia residing at Cincinnati, Ohio -- U.S. patent No.720,877, dated February 17th 1903.
    http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/bleyeglass.htm


    3. the pendulum
    The History of Time Keeping
    Learn about the history of ancient timekeeping, sun and water clocks, mechanical and quartz clocks, time standards and time zones.
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    Modern Clock Trivia
    In 1577, Jost Burgi invented the minute hand. Burgi's invention was part of a clock made for Tycho Brahe, an astronomer who needed an accurate clock for his stargazing.

    In 1656, the pendulum was invented by Christian Huygens, making clocks more accurate.

    In 1504, the first portable (but not very accurate) timepiece was invented in Nuremberg, Germany by Peter Henlein. The first reported person to actually wear a watch on thewrist was the French mathematician and philosopher, Blaise Pascal (1623-1662). With a piece of string, he attached his pocket watch to his wrist.

    The word 'clock' comes from the French word "cloche" meaning bell. The Latin for bell is glocio, the Saxon is clugga and the German is glocke.

    Sir Sanford Fleming invented standard time in 1878.
    http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blclock.htm



    4. mechanical clocks
    When was the earliest clock made?
    Nothing is known of the date, place or inventors of the earliest mechanical clocks. However, there are documentary references to clocks in Europe in the last quarter of the 13th century. In 1271 Robert the Englishman wrote a commentary on Johannes de Sacrobosco’s Tractatus de Sphera Mundi
    http://www.thebritishmuseum.ac.uk/mme/mmecofaq.html


    B.C. 725 A Chinese engineer and a Buddhist monk build the first true mechanical clock a water-driven device with an escapement that causes the clock to tick.

    http://www.indwes.edu/Faculty/bcupp/lookback/keydates.htm



    OK SURRENDER I CHECKED 4 OF YOUR SO CALLED MUSLIM INVENTIONS
    AND EACH ONE HAS BEEN PROVEN TO BE PURE FANTASY

    AFTER CHECKING 4 AND GETTING 4 LIES BACK I DID NOT CHECK ANYMORE
    WHAT IS THE POINT OF CHECKING YOUR INFORMATION IF THEY ALL PROVE TO BE LIES

    DONT YOU KNOW WE LIVE IN MODERN TIMES HAVE YOU HEARD OF A SEARCH ENGINE
    IT IS VERY USEFUL AT FINDING THE TRUTH AND SHOWING UP LIARS

    SURRENDER I SAY TO YOU ARE GETTING YOUR INFO FROM MYTHS,LEGENDS, OR FAIRY BOOKS


    YOU WILL FIND IF YOU LOOK THROUGH HISTORY THE CHINESE INVENTED MOST THINGS FIRST OR THE WEST
     
  15. Knife Familyman G Registered Senior Member

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    i had already provided "western " referecnes and "western " authors for you to read on this topic in a previous thread.....which may i add.....you did not respond to.....at least not intelligently.

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    again, too easy.
     
  16. vincent Sir Vincent, knighted by HM Registered Senior Member

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    KNIFE
    YOU ARE NOT SHARP IN FACT YOU ARE VERY BLUNT

    LETS SEE BECAUSE MY MUSLIM BROTHERS CAN NOT PROVIDE TRUE MUSLIM INVENTIONS

    I WILL PROVIDE SOME ENGLISH ONES


    Inventors
    British Inventions A-Z
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    The following British inventions are defined as having been made in the United Kingdom or made by a person of British citizenship. We are placing together inventors of English, Irish, Scottish and Welsh origins (pardon to those of you belonging to separatists movements.) It should also be noted that the British inventions named will include inventions that have been invented in other nations i.e. computers, cars, or steam power and are not necessarily exclusives or firsts. This list is far from complete (suggestions welcome).
    A
    Anemometer - Robert Hooke
    A/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I-K/L/M/N/O/P-Q/R/S/T/U-V/W-Z/top
    B
    Disc Brakes - Frederick William Lanchester
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    C
    Tin Can - Peter Durand
    Cat Eyes - Percy Shaw
    Portland Cement - Joseph Aspdin Cordite - Sir James Dewar, Sir Frederick Abel
    Corkscrews - H.S. Heeley
    Crossword Puzzles - Arthur Wynne
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    D
    Depth Charges Diving Equipment/Scuba Gear - John Smeaton, William James, Henry Fleuss
    A/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I-K/L/M/N/O/P-Q/R/S/T/U-V/W-Z/top
    E
    EKG (Underlying Principles) - Various
    Electric Motor - Michael Faraday Electromagnet - William Sturgeon
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    F
    Fax Machine - Alexander Bain
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    G
    Gas Mask -John Tyndall and others
    A/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I-K/L/M/N/O/P-Q/R/S/T/U-V/W-Z/top
    H
    Dew-point Hygrometer - John Frederic Daniell Holography - Dennis Gábor
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    I-K
    Internal Combustion Engine - Samuel Brown
    Jet Engines - Sir Frank Whittle Kelvin Scale - Lord William Thomson Kelvin
    A/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I-K/L/M/N/O/P-Q/R/S/T/U-V/W-Z/top
    L
    Metal Lathe - Henry Maudslay invented the first in 1797.
    Lawn Mower - Edwin Beard Budding
    Lightbulbs - Humphry Davy, Sir Joseph Wilson Swan, James Bowman Lindsay Locomotive - Richard Trevithick
    Power Loom - Edmund Cartwright
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    M
    Little Nipper Mousetrap - James Henry Atkinson
    A/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I-K/L/M/N/O/P-Q/R/S/T/U-V/W-Z/top
    N
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    O

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    P-Q
    Penicillin - Alexander Fleming
    Penny Farthing - James Starley
    Periodic Table - John Newlands Periscope - Sir Howard Grubb
    Polyester - John Rex Whinfield and James Tennant Dickson
    Puckle Gun*- John Puckle
    A/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I-K/L/M/N/O/P-Q/R/S/T/U-V/W-Z/top
    R
    Radar Locating of Aircraft - Sir Robert Alexander Watson-Watt
    Radio (Underlying Principles) - James Clerk Maxwell Rubber Bands - Stephen Perry
    Rubber Masticator - Thomas Hancock
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    S
    Seed Drill - Jethro Tull
    Seismometer - James Forbes
    Seismograph - John Milne, Sir James Alfred Ewing, Thomas Gray
    Sewing Machines - Thomas Saint
    Shrapnel - Henry Shrapnel
    Steam Engine - Thomas Savery, Thomas Newcomen, James Watt Steel Production - Sir Henry Bessemer
    Submarine - William Bourne,*
    Spinning Jenny - James Hargreaves
    Spinning Frame - Richard Arkwright
    Spinning Mule - Samuel Crompton
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    T
    Television - John Logie Baird
    Thermos - Sir James Dewar Toilet Paper - British Perforated Paper Company
    Torpedo - Robert Whitehead 1866*
    A/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I-K/L/M/N/O/P-Q/R/S/T/U-V/W-Z/top
    U-V
    Umbrella (steel-ribbed) - Samuel Fox
    Universal Joint - Robert Hooke (also Iris Diaphragm, Balance Spring) Vacuum Cleaner - Hubert Cecil Booth
    Viagra - Peter Dunn, Albert Wood, Dr Nicholas Terrett
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    W-Z
    Wacky Inventions - Arthur Paul Pedrick
    Waterproof Fabric - Charles Macintosh World Wide Web - Tim Berners-Lee




    AND THE TELEPHONE

    Alexander Graham Bell was born in 1847 in Edinburgh, Scotland. He moved to Canada when he was 23 and only then migrated to the USA. He was British so Brits can rightly claim the telephone is a British invention.


    aeroplane

    Brit Percy Pilcher designed a powered triplane and built it in 1899. By the last day of September 1899, Pilcher's powered triplane was very nearly ready for flight (save, apparently, for mounting the engine), but on that day Pilcher was gliding in his "Hawk." His previously reliable "Hawk" suffered a structural failure, fell, and Pilcher died two days later. Pilcher's powered triplane was never flown. But the “invention” beat the Americans by 4 years.

    Or maybe it was Bill Frost a Welsh carpenter who patented the aeroplane in 1894 and took to the skies in a powered flying machine the following year (8 years before the Wright brothers)
     
  17. guthrie paradox generator Registered Senior Member

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    Hang on, how can you compare "british" inventors with "muslim" inventors? Whats the difference?
     
  18. KhalidIbnWaleed Registered Member

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    What you fail to mention is if the Muslims didn't build laboratories and experimented in the field of Chemistry; 'electricity' wouldn't exist. No telephone, no radio, no photography, no cinematography etc. etc. etc.

    French Orientalist Dr. Gustav Lebon said:

    "It must be remembered that no science, either of chemistry or any other science, was discovered all of a sudden. The Muslims had established one thousand years ago their laboratories in which they used to make experiments and publish their discoveries without which lavoisier (accredited by some as being the founder of chemistry) would not have been able to produce anything in this field. It can be said without the fear of contradiction that owing to the researches and experimentation of Muslim scientists modern chemistry came into being and that it produced great results in the form of great scientific inventions, viz, steam, the electricity, the telegraph, the telephone, the radio, the photography, the cinematography and so on."


    Muslims are the inventors of "Modern Science"
     
  19. Knife Familyman G Registered Senior Member

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    @ vincent,

    did you actually read any of the "western" references? or would you rather i provided "eastern" references?

    vincent, debating with you is one sided. you "seem" to expect everyone to read your references and links, but you are not willing to look in to others.

    furthermore, when you are disputed using your own references, you do not repsond, as you have proven in many threads.
     
  20. Knife Familyman G Registered Senior Member

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    also, based on your post, it seems that the british are obsessed with inventions of war and destruction. this certainly reflects on your beliefs and pride.

    true brit!
     
  21. vincent Sir Vincent, knighted by HM Registered Senior Member

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    MUSLIMS INVENTED ELECTRICITY?

    WHERE ON EARTH TO YOU GET THIS RUBBISH

    LET ME CAST SOME LIGHT OR ELECTRICITY ON THE TRUE INVENTORS




    Inventors
    Michael Faraday
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    Michael Faraday (1791-1867)
    British physicist and chemist, best known for his discoveries of electromagnetic induction and of the laws of electrolysis. His biggest breakthrough in electricity was his invention of the electric motor.

    http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blfaraday.htm




    Beginning with Benjamin Franklin's experiment with a kite one stormy night in Philadelphia, the principles of electricity gradually became understood. In the mid-1800s, everyone's life changed with the invention of the electric light bulb. Prior to 1879, electricity had been used in arc lights for outdoor lighting. The lightbulb's invention used electricity to bring indoor lighting to our homes.

    http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blelectric.htm



    The Invention of the Light Bulb: Davy, Swan and Edison
    The first electric light was made in 1800 by Humphry Davy, an English scientist. He experimented with electricity and invented an electric battery. When he connected wires to his battery and a piece of carbon, the carbon glowed, producing light. This is called an electric arc.

    Much later, in 1860, the English physicist Sir Joseph Wilson Swan (1828-1914) was determined to devise a practical, long-lasting electric light. He found that a carbon paper filament worked well, but burned up quickly. In 1878, he demonstrated his new electric lamps in Newcastle, England.

    In 1877, the American Charles Francis Brush manufactured some carbon arcs to light a public square in Cleveland, Ohio, USA. These arcs were used on a few streets, in a few large office buildings, and even some stores. Electric lights were only used by a few people.

    The inventor Thomas Alva Edison (in the USA) experimented with thousands of different filaments to find just the right materials to glow well and be long-lasting. In 1879, Edison discovered that a carbon filament in an oxygen-free bulb glowed but did not burn up for 40 hours. Edison eventually produced a bulb that could glow for over 1500 hours.

    Lewis Howard Latimer (1848-1928) improved the bulb by inventing a carbon filament (patented in 1881); Latimer was a member of Edison's research team, which was called "Edison's Pioneers." In 1882, Latimer developed and patented a method of manufacturing his carbon filaments.


    http://www.enchantedlearning.com/inventors/edison/lightbulb.shtml




    600 B.C. Thales of Miletus writes about amber becoming charged by rubbing - he was describing what we now call static electricity.
    1600 English scientist, William Gilbert first coined the term "electricity" from the Greek word for amber. Gilbert wrote about the electrification of many substances* in his "De magnete, magneticisique corporibus". He also first used the terms electric force, magnetic pole, and electric attraction.
    1660 Otto von Guericke invented a machine that produced static electricity.
    1675 Robert Boyle discovered that electric force could be transmitted through a vacuum and observed attraction and repulsion.
    1729 Stephen Gray's discovery of the conduction of electricity.
    1733* Charles Francois du Fay discovered that electricity comes in two forms which he called resinous(-)and vitreous(+). Benjamin Franklin and Ebenezer Kinnersley later renamed the two forms as positive and negative.
    1745
    * Georg Von Kleist discovered that electricity was controllable.
    * Dutch physicist, Pieter van Musschenbroek invented the "Leyden Jar" the first electrical capacitor. Leyden jars store static electricity.


    1747
    * Benjamin Franklin experiments with static charges in the air and theorized about the existence of an electrical fluid that could be composed of particles.
    * William Watson discharged a Leyden jar through a circuit, that began the comprehension of current and circuit.
    * Henry Cavendish started measuring the conductivity of different materials


    1752 Benjamin Franklin invented the lightening rod - he demonstrated lightning was electricity.
    1767 Joseph Priestley discovered that electricity followed Newton's inverse-square law of gravity.
    1786 Italian physician, Luigi Galvani demonstrated what we now understand to be the electrical basis of nerve impulses when he made frog muscles twitch by jolting them with a spark from an electrostatic machine.
    1800 First electric battery invented by Alessandro Volta. Volta proved that electricity could travel over wires.
    1816 First energy utility in US founded.
    1820
    * Relationship of electricity and magnetism confirmed by Hans Christian Oersted who observed that electrical currents effected the needle on a compass
    * and Marie Ampere, who discovered that a coil of wires acted like a magnet when a current is passed thorough it.
    * D. F. Arago invented the electromagnet.


    1821 First electric motor (Faraday).
    1826 Ohms Law (Georg Simon Ohm) - "conduction law that relates potential, current, and circuit resistance"
    1827 Joseph Henry's electromagnetic experiments lead to the concept of electrical inductance. Joseph Henry built one of the first electrical motors.
    1831 Principles of electromagnetism induction, generation and transmission discovered (Michael Faraday).
    1837 First industrial electric motors.
    1839 First fuel cell.
    1841 J. P. Joule's law of electrical heating published.
    1873 James Clerk Maxwell wrote equations that described the electromagnetic field, and predicted the existence of electromagnetic waves traveling with the speed of light.
    1878 Edison Electric Light Co. (US) and American Electric and Illuminating (Canada) founded.
    1879
    * First commercial power station opens in San Francisco, uses Charles Brush generator and arc lights.
    * First commercial arc lighting system installed, Cleveland, Ohio.
    * Thomas Edison demonstrates his incandescent lamp, Menlo Park, New Jersey.


    1880
    * First power system isolated from Edison.
    * Grand Rapids Michigan: Brush arc light dynamo driven by water turbine used to provide theater and storefront illumination.


    1881 Niagra Falls, New York; Brush dynamo, connected to turbine in Quigley's flour mill lights city street lamps.
    1882
    * Edison’s Pearl Street Station.
    * First hydroelectric station opens (Wisconsin).


    1883
    * Transformer invented.
    * Edison introduces "three-wire" transmission system.


    1884 Steam turbine invented.
    1886
    * William Stanley develops transformer and Alternating Current electric system.
    * Frank Sprague builds first American transformer and demonstrates use of step up and step down transformers for long distance AC power transmission in Great Barrington, Massachusetts.
    * Westinghouse Electric Company organized.
    * 40 to 50 water powered electric plants reported on line or under construction in the U.S. and Canada.


    1887 San Bernadino, California; High Grove Station, first hydroelectric plant in the West.
    1888 Rotating field AC alternator invented by Nikola Tesla.
    1889 Oregon City Oregon, Willamette Falls station, first AC hydroelectric plant. Single phase power transmitted 13 miles to Portland at 4,000 volts, stepped down to 50 volts for distribution.
    1891 60 cycle AC system introduced in U.S.
    1892 General Electric Company formed by the merger of Thomson-Houston and Edison General Electric.
    1893
    * Westinghouse demonstrates "universal system" of generation and distribution at Chicago exposition.
    * Austin, Texas; First dam designed specifically for hydroelectric power built across Colorado River is completed.


    1897 Electron discovered by J. J. Thomson.
    1900 Highest voltage transmission line 60 Kilovolt.
    1902 5-Megawatt turbine for Fisk St. Station (Chicago).
    1903
    * First successful gas turbine (France).
    * World’s first all turbine station (Chicago).
    * Shawinigan Water & Power installs world’s largest generator (5,000 Watts) and world’s largest and highest voltage line—136 Km and 50 Kilovolts (to Montreal).
    * Electric vacuum cleaner.
    * Electric washing machine.

    http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blelectric2.htm





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