Female Orgasm

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by Tyler, May 20, 2002.

  1. Tyler Registered Senior Member

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    Okay......so women......what's the best way to get there????


    Hahah, no no, that's not the purpose of the post. Oh I crack myself up.


    My question is, why do women have the ability to have an orgasm? Evolutionarily speaking. Women already have an instinct to reproduce without the enjoyment of sex being there I believe, so why an orgasm? What purpose does it serve? And out of curiosity, will it be lost in further evolution?
     
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  3. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    If you have to ask, you're doing somthing wrong.

    So do men, ja? The purpose is the same, to facilitate pair bonding. Perhaps to increase chances of conception....

    What further evolution? This is another topic entirely, but I believe that we will be guiding our evolution within the next 200 years (conservative!), if'n we don't kill ourselves first.
     
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  5. Tyler Registered Senior Member

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    "If you have to ask, you're doing somthing wrong."
    They don't call me the king for nothin'.


    "So do men, ja? The purpose is the same, to facilitate pair bonding. Perhaps to increase chances of conception...."

    Wrongo, Xevster. Men need to orgasm to reproduce, women don't.




    And also, why the G-spot? It wasn't even really 'discovered' for it's purpose until well into our existence.
     
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  7. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    At the risk of sounding like a lawyer (Do I sound like a lawyer? I got that comment again today. What the hell?!)......Technically, you only need to ejaculate.....

    However, sexual pleasure is not limited to orgasm. The assertion stands.

    Ooops.

    Damn you Tyler, do you realize how many lame jokes I could make out of that statement?!

    Anyways, same thing - pair bonding, pair bonding, pair bonding!
     
  8. Tyler Registered Senior Member

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    "Do I sound like a lawyer?"

    Only a really sexy one that demands sexual favours from me when I say I am out of money and cannot afford your fees.

    "Technically, you only need to ejaculate"

    Touche. So then why the orgasm?

    "However, sexual pleasure is not limited to orgasm. The assertion stands."

    Yes, to increase the chances of reproduction (not so that pairs 'bond', I'm sorry Xev. Evolution has no purpose in us carrying on monogomous relationships, you know that). But like I said, without an orgasm the woman still has a huge instinct to reproduce.

    "Damn you Tyler, do you realize how many lame jokes I could make out of that statement?!"

    I actually was hoping you'd make a few

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  9. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    Oh, okay, that's good I guess.

    Pair bonding again, I would say. Also, to supplement instinct?

    Men are weird, so I can't answer this one as well. Women are weird too, but at least I understand myself.....

    You don't have to be sorry, it happens to all men occasionally.

    Sorry.

    Consider this:
    Bonobos, dolphins and humans are some of the few animals known to have sex just for the fun of it. Bonobos, dolphins and humans are also some of the most intelligent animals on the planet.

    Coincidence? I think not. All three animals have strong pair bonds, to last through childhood.

    Remember that more intelligent animals have longer childhoods. (Neoteny). This is why a strong pair bond is needed, this is why orgasm and good sex is needed!

    Considered it, but all were fairly limp.

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  10. kmguru Staff Member

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    Just a small monkey wrench....

    Almost all female can achieve multiple orgasms one after another, while male has to recharge....
     
  11. Tyler Registered Senior Member

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    Hmmmm, okay, I'm satisfied enough with your answer Xev. Now can we get to having sex?

    See, I was going to attempt to think up a brilliant euphanism but, well....meh.


    Guru, I think we can agree that if men didn't need to reload there'd be more babies than stars.
     
  12. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    "Hmmmm, okay, I'm satisfied enough with your answer Xev. Now can we get to having sex?"

    Of course I'm right, I always am.

    Seriously, do you think that explains it well enough? I can't think of any real objections or counter-arguments.....

    My place or yours?
     
  13. Adam §Þ@ç€ MØnk€¥ Registered Senior Member

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    Orgasm, physical pleasure, a reason to shag. More incentive, more reason, to reproduce, to keep the genes going.
     
  14. Tyler Registered Senior Member

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    I don't think it fully answers my question because I have a hard time believing that nature would need to throw us another reason to get it on. However, I also believe it's the best answer we have.

    I just watched 4 hours worth of sex documentaries so I consider myself slightly educated on the topic.

    Oh, and, I can still feel like the after-effects of shrooms, anyone know if this is normal/just in my head?

    By the way, I have a new drug of choice. Scratch that, my drug of choice will always be women.
     
  15. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    "I don't think it fully answers my question because I have a hard time believing that nature would need to throw us another reason to get it on. However, I also believe it's the best answer we have."

    Not simply to get it on, but to stick with one another. Same function as love - to stick with one another.

    Will note that female orgasm is probably a recent mutation, which would explain how comparativly variable it is.

    "Oh, and, I can still feel like the after-effects of shrooms, anyone know if this is normal/just in my head?"

    Goddam Tyler, your posting hasn't been affected. Then again, I post drunk and nobody seems to notice.

    I have no clue, sorry.

    Adam:
    "Orgasm, physical pleasure, a reason to shag. More incentive, more reason, to reproduce, to keep the genes going."

    Another good reason. Instinct didn't seem to cut it with men or with women - however, instinct alone dosen't explain why intelligence is strongly correlated with sexual pleasure.

    Edit to add:

    Tyler:

    "I just watched 4 hours worth of sex documentaries so I consider myself slightly educated on the topic."

    You watched sex documenteries while on shrooms? That's, umm, an odd high. :bugeye:
     
  16. Adam §Þ@ç€ MØnk€¥ Registered Senior Member

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    Many other animals breed in batches. We don't. Many other animals have offspring cvapable of survival quite soon after birth. We don't. Our infants remain weak for many years, unable to fend for themselves. Also, we humans survived the rigours of evolution and all by living in groups. What we have is a creature which needs to take every opportunity to breed, regardless of season and such, as often as possible. So if we're not triggered by seasons and availability of food, what drives us? Pleasure.
     
  17. Northwind Master of Anvils Registered Senior Member

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    The muscle contractions during female orgasm serve to open her cervix and help facilitate the path of the male's sperm into her uterus. Same as the male's orgasm allows him to pump the sperm into her. Simple. Xev is absolutely correct about the pair-bonding too.
     
  18. Tyler Registered Senior Member

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    "Goddam Tyler, your posting hasn't been affected. Then again, I post drunk and nobody seems to notice."

    Hehe, I think we should try posting under every possible situation.

    "You watched sex documenteries while on shrooms? That's, umm, an odd high."

    The shrooming was done yesterday, I'm just still feeling the after effects. If anyone wishes to hear about the wild day that was my shrooms experience I'll gladly post it.



    Oh, and thanks guys. I'm taking this as a full answer.
     
  19. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    "Hehe, I think we should try posting under every possible situation."

    Oooh, you rake!

    "The shrooming was done yesterday, I'm just still feeling the after effects. If anyone wishes to hear about the wild day that was my shrooms experience I'll gladly post it."

    Certainly. I've never tried, should be interesting to know what it's like.
     
  20. Tyler Registered Senior Member

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    Okay, I don't remember everything but here's the short form.

    First of all, these things taste like ass. They are the single most disgusting taste I have ever experienced.

    About a half hour after I forced these things down my throat the feelings stopped being just like a marijuana high and become something new. We were in my friend's basement and all of a sudden the walls started to change. The paint on the walls just fell off of them and everything became very clear and sharp. The others were talking amongst themselves but I just stared at the wall for a while. After that I started thinking about philosophy and EVERYTHING made sense. I just looked in to the air and I knew the answer to every question. It was magical. Just to see every problem I had answered. Of course, looking back a lot of my 'answers' were jus nonsensical mumbo jumbo. Then I decided to get a drink. So I get up and go upstairs to get water. As I walk, another amazing experience comes. It was as if the entire room was filled with a slightly liquified version of oxygen and so I was walking through the room kind of in slow motion, but more just like I was very fluid-like. I can hardly describe it. The rest of the day I saw a bunch of really cool colours. And music, oh boy! Music was not sound, it was a feeling. I did not hear music, I felt it. It was very, very interesting. A Day In The Life is DEFINETLY the coolest song ever written. That huge rise in the middle was amazing. As the orchestra starts to build I look around and all of a sudden there's a bunch of musicians playing hteir instruments around me (of course, they are very very small as if they are far away, but right beside my head - again, hard to explain). Then when it builds the entire room becomes a bright colour that I can no longer picture or describe. When the piano starts playing everything I have just described disappears and in front of me I see my friend's face (he really was sitting there) but blocking his face is a piano key. Well, three actually. Two white keys with a black key in the middle. And as the piano plays that same note over and over I see the black key going down to the beat. But no one's pressing it. A while later the come-down was kind of like weed. But it was much, much longer

    The rest either I don't really remember or it wasn't that interesting. Oh, I got scared at one point because I knew this was a wierd state to be in and I was afraid it would stay like that forever. All in all, an excellent experience which I will repeat.
     
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    It would be interesting to take a bunch of people, get them high on a hallucinogenic, and tape their philisophical conversation. Lets see how 'magic' their answers to the universe would be then

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    Does anyone else think it's unfair that women have longer lasting orgasms.. but don't seem to be as interested in experiencing it? What a waste!
     
  22. Tyler Registered Senior Member

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    DEFINETLY a waste! I heard today they've come out with a new viagra that can last for 36 hours.



    "It would be interesting to take a bunch of people, get them high on a hallucinogenic, and tape their philisophical conversation. Lets see how 'magic' their answers to the universe would be then"

    It's like, solid, maaaaaan. Haha. A friend of mine goes on and on about his shroom experience we had where he was certain he knew the answer to every question. Now, about the best he can say about his 'answer' was that; 'everything was in layers'. That's it.

    Pretty much, in my short experiences, when you're hallucinating you're completely illogical most of the time and too hung up on the hallucinations to be bothered talking to other people. That's once you get to the spaced-out hallucinating stage.
     
  23. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    "Does anyone else think it's unfair that women have longer lasting orgasms.. but don't seem to be as interested in experiencing it? "

    News to me.

    "It would be interesting to take a bunch of people, get them high on a hallucinogenic, and tape their philisophical conversation. Lets see how 'magic' their answers to the universe would be then"

    Ha ha, yeah. Make more sense than a lot of philosophy.

    "DEFINETLY a waste! I heard today they've come out with a new viagra that can last for 36 hours."

    Don't speak of such things, Tyler. No-one has the right to experience or speak about joy or pleasure on this darkest of days.
    Now if you will excuse me, I am going to curl up in a dark place and weep. Soo close. So close. SO GODDAMNED CLOSE! *Sob*
     

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