For Genesis Deluge Doubters

Discussion in 'Earth Science' started by IceAgeCivilizations, Apr 16, 2007.

  1. NDS NDS Registered Senior Member

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    And hence the problem with your theory. When God created animals, he only created a finite number of "syngameons" or "kinds" of animals.

    These syngameons had a whole 2,000 years to develop into various "syngameon variants." According to your theory, within only 5 or 6 generations, NO MORE SYNGAMEON VARIANTS COULD RESULT, SINCE YOU CLAIM THIS IS HOW FAST THE PROCESS IS.

    Therefore, by the time of the flood, no more "hyper-mutts" would be in existence. Only the "sygameon variants" similar to what we see today. Noah would not, then, have been able to bring "Hyper Mutts" on board since only the "syngameon variants" existed by that time.
     
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    The was homogeneity among the respective syngameons pre Deluge.
     
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  5. NDS NDS Registered Senior Member

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    Great book? LOL. Yes, if it is in the fiction genre.
    They should have named this book, "Noah's Ark: An Infeasibility Study"

    "Many of the arguments depend upon mathematical calculations which are not displayed, either in footnotes or appendices. This leaves the mathematically oriented reader wondering if the mathematics was correct. He claims that calculations show ark animals produced between 6 and 12 tons of airborne moisture. None of the assumptions are displayed to allow the reader to evaluate such a claim. Calculations of the heat production by animals in the ark are claimed to show that there is no problem with this issue, but the lack of calculations force the reader to depend upon the author for the validity of that statement.

    Woodmorappe's tables are confusing, and abridged and because of this it is difficult to check out the mathematical accuracy of his arguments. For instance, in Table 1 he divides the animals on the ark into 8 weight divisions for each class: reptiles, birds and mammals. Thus one would think that there are 24 categories (3 X 8). Table 2 lists the same data for 25 orders, then abridges the remaining 61 land vertebrate orders (which means 61 categories). One can not figure out why this table is published. By the time the reader gets to table 4, which calculates the amount of food required to feed the animals for 371 days, Woodmorappe, giving only a reference, uses a totally unexplained equation (and we discover that there are 32 categories of animals. But these 32 categories are not explained and why there are now more than 24 categories, is also unexplained). Table 5, which calculates drinking water requirements, adds to the confusion by citing only 27 categories of animals which drink water. Either three categories don't eat food or five don't drink water.

    Woodmorappe states (p. 27) that the urine could be drained overboard by gravity. He does not tell how this is possible from the lowest floor level which was below the water line. At one point he suggests that the animals could be trained to urinate and defecate upon command while someone holds a bucket behind the animal. Assuming that this can be accomplished for the largest quarter of the animals and that they need to be serviced three times per day, each person must service 125 animals per hour, 2 animals a minute. What a fun job that must have been."

    http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/woodmorappe-review.html

    IAC, your "expert" author fails to provide how he came to the numbers he did, and he fails to explain many other things (kind of like you!!!).
     
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    Well then I guess you'll just have to put on your thinking cap.
     
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    You must admit what he touches on is quite compelling.
     
  9. NDS NDS Registered Senior Member

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    No, not really.

    My calcuations are a lot more accurate than his.
     
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    You shouldn't think so.
     
  11. Benauld Does your dog bite? Registered Senior Member

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    No, you shouldn't think... it's a waste of energy.
     
  12. NDS NDS Registered Senior Member

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    IAC, that author wasn't biased towards proving the Noah's Ark Fable, was he?
     
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    Are you against it?
     
  14. NDS NDS Registered Senior Member

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    Me and about 95% of all other sane people. IAC, in any case, how about explaining to us all how the author comes to those calculations.
     
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  16. NDS NDS Registered Senior Member

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    sane - not IAC

    In Noah's Ark: A Feasibility Study, John Woodmorappe states that only 2,000 animals need have been on the ark. TWO THOUSAND.

    Why is it that you state that 40,000 animals need have been on the ark?
     
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    I was being generous.
     
  18. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    How did Noah find a platypus?
     
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    By banging some plates on a puss?
     
  20. NDS NDS Registered Senior Member

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    So 2000 species turned into 10 million species in a matter of 500 years. That's just great, IAC. Sounds like "Punctuated equilibrium" to me. LOL.
     
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    Species is a meaningless term, thousands of syngameons naturally selected for the millions of so-called species, which are actually variations within respective syngameons.
     
  22. NDS NDS Registered Senior Member

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    Aside from the absurd notion that 2,000 animal types could turn into 10 million within 500 years, how do you explain the fact that no human fossils are ever found with dinosaurs? Why do you keep avoiding this important question?
     
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    What were the years of this deluge?
     

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