"Fossil Fuel" And The "Oil Window"

Discussion in 'Pseudoscience Archive' started by OilIsMastery, May 31, 2008.

  1. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    How many fossils does it take to make a barrel of oil?

    According to the fossil fuel cult, oil can only be found in sedimentary rock and not below the alleged 15,000 foot "Oil Window." See so-called "Dr." Kenneth Deffeyes:

    Hubbert's Peak

    http://www.energybulletin.net/2423.html

    http://www.oilcrisis.com/Deffeyes/reviewpatterson.htm

    http://scibooks.org/hubbert.html

    http://mysite.verizon.net/vze495hz/id9.html

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum

    They all say "geologists" plural but so far Deffeyes is the only so-called "geologist" I've found who has made such a claim (in other words the whole world is learning from this moron).

    The reality is that oil rigs have been drilling below 15,000 feet true vertical depth looking for oil since 1938. And guess what else? They've found it!!!

    InfoGulf.Com via Offshore Mag: Exploration and Development Below 15,000 feet TVD.

    Those wells were drilled at least 3 years ago. We are finding oil much deeper now. According to Chris at Anadarko, the Grand Cayman well was drilled to 32,440 feet TVD. According to Guy at Transocean they've gone down to 35,000 feet TVD. And Transocean is building ships that will drill to 40,000 feet TVD.

    Furthermore, 500 degree heat is no problem for oil: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601086&sid=aalWn.eJHGZk&refer=latin_america

    For more of Mr. Deffeyes's pseudoscience see here: http://peakoildebunked.blogspot.com/2006/04/279-many-wrong-predictions-of-ken.html
     
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  3. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    They are talking about 400-500 b/d, that's barrels per day. About 3.8 Million b/d is required just to make up for decline in existing production.
     
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  5. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    Wrong thread. This is a thread about the alleged oil window and fossil fuel.
     
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  7. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    It's a pitiful amount though. It doesn't seem to contradict that oil reserves are found within a certain window.
     
  8. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    Is Tupi a pitiful amount? 8 billion barrels. How about Carioca? 33 billion barrels.

    You wouldn't know what contradiction is if you were personally tutored by Aristotle.

    "The limit of 15,000 feet is the bottom of the oil window." -- Kenneth Deffeyes
     
  9. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Tupi field is found under about 4,000m of rock and salt. The Carioca field is at a depth of 2,410m. There can be exceptions because a "window" means: If you drill deeper than 15,000 feet, you can find natural gas but little oil. (from your quote) Little doesn't mean none.
     
  10. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    So what? That proves that the oil window and biogenic origin are a hoax.

    So according to you the 8 billion barrels of oil at Tupi and the 33 billion barrels of oil at Carioca are actually natural gas but little oil. Interesting.
     
  11. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    4,000M= about 13,000 feet

    Obviously the Brazillian reserves are above the window because heat has not disintegrated the oil into methane. The petroleum geologists responsible for these finds also don't believe in abiotic oil. No one in the industry operates under that assumption.
     
  12. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    Obviously you don't have the slightest clue what your'e talking about. What temperature is required to "disinitigrate oil into methane?"

    Obviously you don't know any petroleum geologists.

    Everyone drilling under 15,000 feet TVD and into igneous rock operates under that assumption.
     
  13. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    So then you reject the biotic theory, even though new discoveries might explain the presence of hydrocarbons at depth?

    Research finds life 1000 feet beneath ocean floor

    CORVALLIS, Ore. – A new study has discovered an abundance of microbial life deep beneath the ocean floor in ancient basalt that forms part of the Earth's crust, in research that once more expands the realm of seemingly hostile or remote environments in which living organisms can apparently thrive.



    ...Another very deep borehole was drilled in Gravenberg, Sweden in the search for deep earth gases. It reached 6800 m and here thermophilic bacteria were successfully enriched and isolated from a depth of 5278 m where the temperature was 65 - 75 °C. ​


    The absolute majority of boreholes explored for microbial life do not reach such depths because the drilling cost for a borehole increases with depth, which, together with increasing technical challenges limit the number of super deep boreholes to very few.

    As far as the relationship between temperature and oil, here is a handy chart:

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  14. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Why should oil under heat disintegrate into methane? methane exists with out oil.

    http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/print/2487

     
  15. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    What clued you in?

    What discovery might that be?

    Predicted by abiogenic theory not biogenic theory. See Thomas Gold's The Deep Hot Biosphere: The Myth of Fossil Fuel.

    http://www.amazon.com/Deep-Hot-Biosphere-Fossil-Fuels/dp/0387952535


    That chart is absurd and based upon junk science. The 33 billion barrels of oil at Carioca is trapped by 500 degree heat.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601086&sid=aalWn.eJHGZk&refer=latin_america

     
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  16. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Of course, the pressure keeps it stable at that temperature. If it were to rise to shallower depths, it would fractionate.
     
  17. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    Like I said: you obviously don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about. First you said 200 degree temperatures disintigrate the oil into methane. Now you say that 260 degree temperature keeps it stable.
     
  18. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    he said PRESSURE keeps it stable.
     
  19. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    He doesn't even know what the pressure at Carioca is.

    He clearly said high temperatures break apart oil into methane.
     
  20. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Temperature is a factor of depth, but it's variable. The temperature at which oil breaks down also varies with pressure. The 15,000 guideline for depth of recoverable oil still seems to stand.
     
  21. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    In other words the universe is however you say it is even though the facts contradict your earlier claims.

    LOL @ U.
     
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  22. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    do understand the relationships between volume, temperture, and pressure when dealing with fluids because you appear not to.
     
  23. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    Yes I do. You don't even know what the temperature and pressure are at Carioca. I do.
     

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