gender views cause of incel.

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the world is full of hypocrits
if it were not for the abundance, many countrys would simply not be able to trade with each other and there would be never ending genocide.
hypocrisy as a philosophical abstract could be defined as a manditory lubricant for evolutionar soci-macro development(though thats probably a seperate thread)

traitor however, that has a sense of pre-defined acceptance of agreement which has been pro-actively changed in the mindset to oppose the pre defined agrement.

what was this 'agreement' type thing(behaviours/social-norms/social-expectations etc?) you refer to ?

 

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Cant tell if trolling or serious. Its a bit like saying food is for energy, and that's it use. Well yes but we are conscious beings and we do things for our personal satisfaction, we do not just eat soup and generic Goolagong like robots all day.

Second, in other species, sex is not merely for procreation but recreation, and also creating bonds and decreasing violence in society.

 

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Traitors to themselves, traitors to nature, traitors to other human beings, traitors to the constitution, etc.

 

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Re-creation? That's the same as reproduction. ☺

 

ok, however, being a traitor means you have already agreed to something.
as we see society evolve and advance a certain proportion of society expects others to be traitorous by changing from the old ways to the new ways.
choosing where and when to apply the word to social conventions is somewhat confusing to those who are not soo well read on different cultural norms., equally it is akward for those whom are conservative who wish NOT to have things change.
slavery, womens rights, marriage reform(making it illegal for a husband to rape their wife). etc etc homosexuallaw reform etc...

humans have killed other humans beings for thousands of years, that is fairly "traitorous".

you may wish to define what you call your base line for human behaviour, which culture(laws & social customs[note it is still common among millions of people & cultures to sell girls as sex/domestic slaves into marriage]) you define as a base line etc

p.s. on a personal note RE people lunging at you...
if you wish to shout at the world then go shout at the world.(most people need a safe outlet for their own personal frustrations and issues & emotions)
if you wish to discus things, then discus things.
you innability to force others to accept your opinion on anything is not their problem.
that is simply your opinion.
i suggest you learn meditation

 

You are being willfully naive. Women flirt with their eyes and molest people with eyes. They present themselves as entitled narcissists who think they own you just because you are male, and so they know you have no dating advantage and thus won't resist. If you don't know what I'm talking about you never will, it has to happen to you personally or else you wont know what I'm talking about. If you've ever had a woman just stare at you like they want to eat you and view you as a piece of meat, but at the same time, give a vibe you have no rights, no way to advocate yourself and that must just passively hope they will eventually choose you instead of other competitor males, then you know the double standard is real.

Yes but you said it in a way that defused what I was trying to do.
Essentially it was like I was Rosa Parks, and you told me to go to the back of the bus, and to be grateful I was allowed on the bus at all.

I was never obedient to the incel movement. I am my own leader and obey noone unless it is in my interest to do so.

I dont rape and I obey the law, but I guess even that isn't enough for you to be satisfied. Apparently I am supposed to be happy, nice, and polite even while I am sexually frustrated. Polite to the same people who treat me like I'm worthless.

Again I didn't adopt it, it was thrust on me. Involuntary celibate is an involuntary condition, that is why it is called involuntary celibate.

I don't parrot the rhetoric as my rhetoric is different in many ways.

I never did assign all the blame on women.

Never said I wanted it but like the Renegade TV show such a role was thrust on me.

As far as humanity goes most of the problems in the world are caused by other people.

Rape is fulfills two conditions: Sex that is against consent and sex that causes disgust. Women are clearly disgusted by men, this is a fact and not debatable.
Here is an example.
If a guy who is into hot girls, is thrown onto the bed by a hot girl, and she dominates him, it is not rape, because he is not disgusted by hot girls.
Rape is obviously a case of disgust, so it is obvious that women are disgusted by men.
It is obvious to see.
We live in a world where men are by and large attracted to women, but women are by and large not attracted to men.
Open up your eyes. We are barely coming out of the dark ages, women have been oppressed by men for so long you can't even see it. The truth is coming out now, that women are not into men, and never were, that is why men always oppressed them into arranged marriages, and promoted cishet culture for so long because they knew of this fact, the secret people don't wish to accept, which is that women by and large are not attracted to men.

Wow you totally are going on a tangent and clearly what I was actually talking about was over your head completely.
It's like you are a security gaurd or camp counselour, bible man who has an automatic white knight reflex that is so deep you don't even bother to even take the time to stop and listen to what the other person is saying. It's like for example, I will be talking with my friends about cheese and pizza, and somehow you use it an opportunity to defend women's rights, like some character in a sitcom who is placed in for comedic relief and totally is oblivious to the conversation that is actually going on.

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People have killed each other for ages but it is only traitorous if they declare their allegiances to each other in to one community tribal unit of unity.
For example if a knight joins a clan and starts killing his own clan members it is treason

Likewise humanity tries to pretend we are all one race, one grand humanity of peace and unity meanwhile they enslave their own citizens, worship the almighty dollar and wish for incels to die alone and suicide

 

Thing is they didn't want to make it a discussion, they turned it into a slander fest mock trial of trying to find the best way of throwing balloons at the clown.
It is equivalent to a Disney-like scene of the British aristocracy hosting a mock trial for an outsider and putting a bunch of trumped charges and when they go to defend themselves, twisting everything they say into some convoluted trumped charge.
Basically they go home, watch CNN, hate the Republicans on TV, but the republicans are shielded by a TV screen and they can't do anything about it, so they vent out their pent-up hateful frustrations they see on the first person who doesn't obey and tow the line of liberal dogma. Doesn't matter that I'm not actually a Republican, and hate republicans, the fact I don't tow the liberal line is close enough in their book to make me a witch and heretic to vent out their angst upon.

 

You are being too passive in all of this Gamelord. You don't have to buy a woman a diamond ring. Many couples today don't. If they get married they get a wedding band, gold, ivory, or whatever and that's it. If money is tight, they may agree that the money that would have gone for a diamond will go for a vacation or down payment on a house or whatever.

You don't have to worry about how every woman treats you, just worry about the one that likes you. Most guys who want a relationship, find one or choose that not find one. You have many excuses but you aren't doing anything about the situation.

You excuse seems to be that only "perfect" guys are desired by women. That's simply not true. That's not to say that it's easy for anyone to find the "right" person but there is nothing unique to you in this regard. Women do like sex and aren't really "heterosexual males in disguise. They just don't want a sweaty pig laying on them, so don't be a sweaty pig.

You do have to personally have some appeal to someone. Your attitude seems to be "I'm great and everyone should realize that or they are stupid or narcissistic". This is just delusional.

It is immature to reduce everything to sex. Sure, all guys want sex but all 4 year olds want candy and they cry if they can't get it. Women (people really) want maturity from a relationship. If someone isn't going to add to your life, no one is going to be interested.

Your problem isn't society. You keep talking about "america" but America is more accepting than many/most other societies.

 

It is impossible for a woman to rape a man. A man must have an erection, which means he wants it. ☺

 

The thing is, women never approach. Men are left to convince women they are a good catch. And most women have very high standards and a sense of entitlement.
Women dont chase men like men chase women. You have to submit yourself to women's fickle nature and hope day one day they will randomly love you. This is essentially like dealing with a narcissist, who has no love to give, and hoping if you eventually prove your worth to the narcissist that some day they will love you, only in most cases they never do, and when they do it is conditional love, not anything real, like as long as you continue to act like a normal husband, work hard and do what you are told, and dont challenge her political dogmas, she will love you, but if you falter, then all bets are off.

And sure women like sex. But I think they mostly like the sex, and not the actual human who is doing the sex.

 

Woman also always have to think of their physical protection and guys just don't have to think in those terms. If I'm on a date with someone that I don't know well and at the end of the date she asks if I would like to come in for a while...I don't have to think, I don't know her very well, I hope she doesn't beat me up if I happen to get her upset about something.

Women always have to think in those terms.

 

What kind of men beat up someone their first date over some political disagreement?

The only time I have heard of such a thing, is bigot men who beat up transwomen when they discover they are trans.

 

This scenario can happen only if you are a door mat. Don't date someone like that, don't marry someone like that, you don't have to be so passive.

Sure, generally guys have to be the one who goes up to the woman. That's life. If you actually meet women outside of a bar, doing something that you have have in common then you meet people as friends and you can generally tell who is interested and who isn't and it's not always as direct as having to go up to someone ask risk rejection.

Go hiking with a group of friends who like to hike and some of them will be women that you will get to know or go do whatever you like to do (dance, cook, movies, swimming, whatever).

 

divide & conquer to be the only #1 in control & power of 'everyone else who bows down to the power & authority'.
yes.
i understand what you mean.
that exists on most sides, however with the bi-polar nature of US politics attempting to force others to comply with your authority so you remain #1 is quite the thing(& in different forms in some other countrys).
even more soo when socialism and collectivism as a form of management is deemed to be evil & un-democratic(irony). you can call it cultural idiosyncrasies.

why would you think you are not being judged in person in other situations online/not-online etc... ?
err-go >>>>> (why would a professor[e.g] of psychology or astro-physics take their time to pay attention to your post above someone elses if it sounds just like some other noise on the internet?)
anyone can throw a statement out to media, not many can discuss answer questions & explain reasoning and debate different sides of theorys.
if you are going to react to emotive generalisations above the nature of discussion then you will be lost in the noise.

 

Been there done that. Most of them will have relationships or just friendzone me and eventually date someone else. Its same old same old.

 

Women get raped all the time, some guys have anger management issues (hate women?) and women are almost always weaker physically than a guy. Even with a short guy and a taller woman, the man is still likely to be able to overpower the woman. Even if it's not a beating, it can just be control.

 

fyi, you may have missed the memo, he said he is gay

 

high school sex education level knowledge appears to be missing in that one.