Genetic Memory

Discussion in 'Biology & Genetics' started by The God, Mar 12, 2017.

  1. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    Sorry not really

    Most of my reading is from my book collection library (real books)

    And chatting with those in the field for the latest info

    My books are well out of date

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  3. Jake Arave Student Registered Senior Member

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    Genetic information as we know it is not as sophisticated as our interpretation of "memory" -- if evidence existed contrary to this it would be a valid question but this is pseudoscience. Let's not make judgments upon what we haven't observed.
     
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  5. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    Ummmm I haven't observed 10 quadrillion things

    Will you just give me one to make judgements on?

    On second thoughts lets not do such for even one

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  7. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    I did a bit of digging and came up with

    Medical Epigenetics by

    T O Tollefsbol

    With about 60 contributors

    By Academic Press 2016

    It's a PDF format book of 901 pages of which I have only read page 3

    But I would not put this book in the woo section of a book shop

    More in the Academic Medical Reference section

    Hope this helps

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  8. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Golly I don't think I'm going to pay for a 900pp tome on this! But thanks for looking.
     
  9. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    Not sure where you are but here the library had a budget for requested books

    Some they might get on loan from another library

    Others they might buy if they thought it might upgrade the collection or be a suitable addition

    Mine I found on line

    It looks very very technical and well above my casual interest

    However if I do happen to come across any aspects I will post them

    The chapter arrangement should make it easy to check anything which might crop up in this thread

    If I sniff woo I might be able to check how much is ligit and how deep it has been buried in Cowpat

    Cheers

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  10. The God Valued Senior Member

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    There is some evidence. I think thats why epigenetics. In fact more research on epigenetics could lead to custom memory species without altering the original genetic traits.

    Well it is certainly not woo, but pseudo yes it could be, till some more conclusive stuff surfaces.
     
  11. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    If you can find this book I think you would find it a very technical educational academic read which is far from woo

    My dismissal of much earlier post has to do with the wild leaps of speculation (which is full to the brim of woo covered in Cowpat) and which I still stand by

    It is the over the top hype which is woo

    There is some evidence. I think thats why epigenetics. In fact more research on epigenetics could lead to custom memory species without altering the original genetic traits.

    This is woo

    Not going to happen

    Well it is certainly not woo, but pseudo yes it could be, till some more conclusive stuff surfaces

    Read the book I have referenced and I think you will find it is not pseudo and it details quite extensive research going on

    Again it is the hype which is the woo

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  12. The God Valued Senior Member

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    Michael 345

    Where is the hype? And why are you cluttering this thread with extensive use of woo, bunkum and cowpat and what not.

    If you have read that book which you referred, then you are free to share the extensive research. It may be of use to others. Do not repeat this woo soo thingie, best for you in such cases is to declare a thread or topic woo and stay away.
     
  13. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    If you are unable to detect hype I am sorry for you

    I call it as I see it

    If you are following the thread you should have noted that the book is in a 901 PDF format of which I stated I have only read page 3

    I will read more in any spare time I have but I will also use the book and quote from the book if I think hype is being used to exaggerate the abilities of Epigenetics

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  14. The God Valued Senior Member

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    I do not think that people here are exaggerating the abilities of Epigenetics. No one here has any stake on Epigenetics as yet.
     
  15. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    Yourself before epigenetics came up

    First mention of epigenetics

    Questioning if epigenetics can be a mechanism for memory transfer

    Reference to a article which I read at the time

    and my reply was

    Again there are two aspects here which are not linked epigenetics and learnt memory

    a system which works on the expression of a gene (epigenetics)

    is being asked to absorb a learnt memory
    (learnt memory)

    and use the absorbed memory to modify a gene

    NOT to modify gene expression which is its job

    but change the gene structure which is not its job

    PLUS instill into the gene a learnt memory which is an impossibility

    NOT GOING TO HAPPEN
     
  16. The God Valued Senior Member

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    Ok
    Not going to happen.
    If that pleases.
     

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