geomagnetic reversal, loss of magnetic shield, pain, suffering & death

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  1. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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  3. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    It seems a very balanced article to me. What do you find hyperbolic about it?
     
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  5. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    The last sentence seems about as balanced as one could be.
     
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  7. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    nothing really
    except
    that ain't when h.s. neanderthalensis went extinct
    their numbers seemed to have had a major decline about 70,000 years ago and some survived for another 40kyrs
    though there seems to have been another major decline at @40-42kybp, about the time claimed in the linked article
    and
    this was the 1st time that i read of a magnetic pole reversal at 42kybp

    so
    I run it past other well read and intelligent people for their thoughts
    thanx
     
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    oops
    what i had read as a geomagnetic pole reversal i should have understood as an excursion
    which is a short term partial(?) pole reversal

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    see earlier posts
    it felt like something was off
    i just hadn't understood what
     
  10. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    I think it is interesting that these people have pointed out the potential for pole reversals to affect the biosphere, through increased radiation flux.

    But there have been numerous pole reversals, as recorded in the magnetisation of the ocean bed. I have not seen anyone associate these with detectable effects in the fossil record, though I must admit I have not followed this closely.
     
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    and then
    there is this
    "A study of 28 deep-sea piston cores from high and low latitudes shows that during the last 2.5 m.y. eight species of Radiolaria became extinct. Prior to their extinction these species were widely distributed and became extinct isochronously throughout their geographic range. Six of the eight species disappeared in close proximity to magnetic reversals recorded in the sediment. Careful determination of the level of disappearance of these six species by counts of over 400,000 individuals shows that the correlation between reversal and extinction levels is indeed striking. The probability of six out of eight species extinctions showing this degree of correlation with reversals by chance is very small. ... "
    https://www.researchgate.net/public...s_and_Reversals_of_the_Earth's_Magnetic_Field
     
  12. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    lots of conspiracy stuff out there in the UFO area about pole reversals & extra terrestrials coming to earth to help humans survive them etc etc etc yadda yadda yadda

    modern science was not entirely convinced such a thing was possible until only a decade or soo ago

    the reality appears to signify a significant event
    human fascists love a good biblical hysteria about the end of the world to sell more cool-aid

    point of note
    the war on science which has been waged by the alt-right for the last 2 decades to suppress climate change & pollution science from making it into the public media

    this is the time when science was verifying magnetic pole shifts into scientific data.

    OBLIVIOUSLY. . .
    the new flavour of cool-aid is "pole-flip"
    & thus rendering climate control regulations & carbon neutral goals as being pointless
    "because pole-flip"

    dont worry about climate change & pollution & new government regulations & housing and sea level rise ... why ? ... because pole-flip(say no to regulation because pole-flip & baby jesus

    Links for you to browse

    part of the variant generic centre of the road alien story around pole shift information via UFO networks which has been around for decades
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nibiru_cataclysm

    BBC scientific info studying pole shifts

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    https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-52550973

    Scientific America scientific info studying pole shifts
    https://www.scientificamerican.com/...field-flip-could-happen-sooner-than-expected/

    these are the people the alt-right have been waging war against for the last 25 years
    http://www.antarcticglaciers.org/glaciers-and-climate/ice-cores/ice-core-drilling/



    these are the type of scientists who have been studying these things with rock drilling glacial drilling & sea bed core drilling
    they are comprised of some of the most highly advanced scientists from around the world.

    from the bbc article not the wobble off axis which gives earth its seasons & ocean circulation & is the probable reason advanced life exists on earth.
    that wobble changes and is on a cycle somewhere between 20 & 30 thousand years
    (how a 40,000 year cycle relates to that is unclear if its deliberate miss information or if it is vague rough calculations attempting to use psychological associations of number values to attract certain types of thinking/people)

    i may have a wee look into it if i remember to to see where the 40k number comes from assuming its not counter psyche to combat # association with Australian aboriginals & the current 40k history civilization time line media message[but my #1 priority is finding a job & a place to live].

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    Earths axis wobble cycle
    NASA
    The cycle of axial precession spans about 25,771.5 years.
    https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2948/milankovitch-orbital-cycles-and-their-role-in-earths-climate/
     
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  13. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    How true

    sibling rivalry

    cognitive dissonance

    incorporeal hereditament

    that's what they want you to think
     
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    https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2948/milankovitch-orbital-cycles-and-their-role-in-earths-climate/

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    soo it kinda looks solid
    but ...

    i recently read/watched some stuff on the cycle of the cycles
    so the 25k year cycle is crossed with another cycle
    so the potential massive change in climactic conditions may be subject to a certain amount of random variable inside a cycle of 25k years interacting with a factor of something else.
    i stopped taking too much attention when they started discussing the variables as i realized it presented a statistical probability of randomness which appeared solid(to my general basic comprehension).


    boiling it down a little
    how does the circulation of the molten iron core correlate to the axis wobble shift cycle ?
    is this a measurable cycle or a chance factor randomization ?


    https://www.livescience.com/2897-earth-magnetic-field-flip-flops.html

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    from your linked
    "Still, there is no evidence that a weakened magnetic field would result in a doomsday for Earth. During past polarity flips there were no mass extinctions or evidence of radiation damage. ..."
    um
    NO
     
  16. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    i am not sure how well read you are into these subjects
    i have years of experience & a fair amount of depth which gives me perspectives as tools.
    1 of those is filtering out or translating splain sheople ass kissing comments.

    mainstream media & many journalists including church writers, will include a sentence to write off the empirical alarmist nature of the truth.

    some take it to artistic levels.
    their fear is scarring people with their article so much people not only refuse to believe plain science, but they then vilify the writer.

    thus the comment you have highlighted.
    you have to de-code that & throw it away as required.

    vague conclusive statements of emotional attachment by a writer is of no real scientific use for the hard science.
    and it is hard science that is the only important factor.

    the sentence de-codes as "i dont think it will be really that bad, i feel like i dont want to worry to much about things that are scary"
    emotive splain cheer leading chant for emotional support as a fear response, possibly well curated to the audience they are imagining or intending to seek repeat calls from.

    you have to reduce it to the simple options
    you can spend all your time investigating their emotional conditions
    or you can spend your time investigating the hard science

    i didnt proof read the articles i linked for emotional bents & leanings or writers preference, just basic science data inclusion toward theme concepts & numerical values.

    starting a science conclusion statement with "still" is a bit of a give away.

    There is significant hard science data that suggests potential of significant changes to human based habitats from changes occurring during the changing of earths magnetic field.

    "pole flip"
    is a word like "jihadist"
    it has about the same level of hard science value inside an American christian environment

    Earths magnetic polarity recently "flipped" with little to no real hard human impact

    but that doesn't sell clicks to religious Armageddon worshiping suburban liberals.

    dont get drunk on the fumes of the cool-aid your trying to test for cool-aid properties
     
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  17. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    ok
    1st --- geomagnetic excursions are a tad out of my wheelhouse
    that being said
    I'm learning something new and having one helluva good time doing so.

    A geomagnetic excursion ain't a complete nor long lasting pole flip, and they happen about 10 times more often than complete pole flips.
    We have had the same poles (brunhes) for about 781,000 years (so far)(which seems to be longer than the average)
    Meanwhile, there may have been 12(or more) excursions during that time.
    From what I've been reading, there does seem to be some correlation between extinction events and geomagnetic excursions when earth's magnetic shield is weakened-----------much more study seems warranted.
     
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    nuclear/biological/chemical war
    climate change
    pandemics
    render it all fairly pointless

    i guess staying on point
    large meteor strikes and/or volcanic eruptions combined with a excusionary event may suggest different outcomes

    trying to filter through all the self interested "the end is nigh" religious self affirmational stuff is tedious & time consuming.
    also their surrounding fan fair of those young n ignorant who simply increase noise tends to swing off search ability from search engines

    makes me think of a good conspiracy thread to start
     
  19. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 71 years old Valued Senior Member

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    Buy your Anti Magnetic Pole Reversal tin foil here

    Guaranteed to keep your South Pole pointing south and the iron in your red blood cells flowing in the right direction

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    lol
    fyi
    what the unseen real risk is
    the earth magnetic field shifting on its axis, which has been documented.
    this then aligns it to not be as effective in keeping out the suns radiation
    so it then radiates certain areas of the world.

    on the rare occasion this might correlate with a sun flare CME coronal mass ejection(solar storm/wind/flare)
    this would cause lethal radiation to which ever part of the world the hole was being orientated toward

    there is circumstantial evidence to suggest that some cultures and people & their culture have normalised inside this reality
    via deep cave like citys & cultures of wearing mud masks
    recent re examination of cave drawings suggesting the ocra was used as a sun blocker.

    it may well prove that these events of extreme radiation may be more frequent and un documented in any way.

    so while its fun to lol about things & poke fun
    those new solar monitoring satellites are not there for decoration

    countrys like india & china having a large portion of its population outside
    ... in the worst case scenario
    may end up with tens of thousands of 2nd degree radiation burns

    this would simply be above & beyond their capacity to cope & i assume martial law would be installed & people would be put in camps to die by the thousands for lack of ability to treat them and to prevent wide spread collapse of modern society.
    there is some suggestion that india may have used this ignorance is the only survival aspect toward covid19 & the real indian death toll may well be in the millions
    probably only around 0.001% of the deceased will be getting covid19 tests

    the above reality appears to have been carried out by several countrys the usa being one of them in their own way, simply ignoring the virus as it spread.

    so keep in mind
    as you joke about pole flip
    i see the real death tolls of such leadership thinking & public support & actions
    it helps to keep a sense of humor
    most people cant cope with the reality
     
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  21. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 71 years old Valued Senior Member

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    I have replied to your word cytoplasmatories

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    OK
    I seem to have an advantage here in that: I have no desire to control nor change the world.
    So, I can just enjoy the learning experience for what it is.
    Meanwhile: It seems that during an excursion, the poles do not flip, they just meander about. And, where they meander seems difficult to pin down, as information from different sites seem to place the meandering poles in different locations.
    I suppose that chaotic is as good a descriptor as any. What this means for the magnetic shield remains unknown.
    this from:
    https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley...html?file=/doi/pdfdirect/10.1029/2008GL034719

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