Ghost photobombs

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  1. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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  3. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    Making a real living from fake dead persons fake ghost is ironic

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  5. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    I'm sure your gut instincts and impressions of the girl and her mom are sure to be accurate guides as to whether the photo was faked, Magical Realist.

    You just know that they are trustworthy, and you just know that's a compelling ghost in the photo. Without ever bothering to investigate anything.
     
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  7. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    And you just know this girl and her mother are lying hoaxers because you don't want to believe in ghosts. That seems a desperate move on your part. But then that's what it always comes to here--desperate moves to deny the obvious.
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    "She was going through the pictures on the way and she came across that one and freaked out," Ogletree told InsideEdition.com. "My daughter sent it to me. At first I am looking at it thinking, 'Who is this? "She called me. Then she started crying and she was really upset about it."

    Haley’s grandparents confirmed that she wasn’t making it up so the mom took to Facebook to share the spooky experience in a post that has since gone viral.

    “I personally think it's pretty cool because today is Kolton's birthday and he caught the biggest fish he's ever caught! It looks like the man is happy for him!” Ogletree wrote on her Facebook post.

    Ogletree said she’s not worried about the people who may not be convinced.

    "Everyone has their own opinions. I have seen pictures like this before that I was skeptical so I totally understand that people will be skeptical," Ogletree said. “What I would really love if there was an expert out there that could back her up on this. This is 100% real."====http://www.insideedition.com/headli...oto-of-ghost-man-standing-next-to-her-brother
     
  8. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    The overall unfortunate fact is: so what? Where might we go from here? There is no progress that can be made with this photo - or any other photo posted here (or anywhere else, for that matter).

    The event has passed; there is no further investigation that could lead to further evidence in these cases.

    The only thing that can come from these case is to clutter the field of paranormal events for most people, who will dismiss it as not going anywhere. It might attract some interested, talented people - and the first thing they're going to do is throw out all alleged evidence that can't be followed up on. That will leave them with cases such as actual alleged haunted houses, where they can go and collect extant evidence, and maybe - just maybe - find something that points toward an explanation of a given event.

    Meanwhile, what is the rationale for posting accounts that cannot advance the science? This is all just an attempt to sow more mystery.
     
  9. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    No. He allows for the possibility. i.e he's open-minded to accept multiple explanations, some of which are mundane and quite likely. We simply don't know whether these people told the truth or not. no one here does. Which means both are possibilities.

    You are not open to multiple explanations. Your one explanation is dependent one all other explanations being falsified. And you can't. Which is why you have to defend them so rabidly.
     
  10. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    I think it is an interesting phenomenon in itself. Does it increase the mystery? Maybe. But if they really are ghosts, then we have one more data point about them that we didn't have before. They can occassionally show up in photos.
     
  11. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    The photo and the comments seem to me totally convincing. I find it hard to believe it's all part of that family's devious plot to perpetrate a hoax. Families just don't do that.
     
  12. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Again, that's circular logic. You're using the premise to draw the conclusion.

    "There's a ghost in this pic."
    "How do you know it's a ghost?"
    "Because it looks ghostly, and nobody saw it."
    "But how do you know what a ghost looks like for comparison?"
    "From all the other pics of ghosts."
    "And how do you know they're ghosts?"
    "Because they look ghostly..."
    etc.

    We have some actual, known data points already that are verified via independent methods: camera artifacts, fakery, misinterpretation, pareidolia.
     
  13. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Credibility of the photographer goes a long way in ruling out fakery. I already told you my niece turned up with one of these pics. So we know it can happen. And if it can happen, why not again and again?
     
  14. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Well , there's the crux isn't it?

    In this world of rampant hoaxery, why do you insist on letting virtually anything convince you?

    Actually, families don't do that. Individuals do.

    If one person decided they were going to perpetrate a hoax, they would not involve their family. They would add people into their story so make it seem like multiple people are involved. If this were a hoax, you have no way of determining that more than one person was involved in it.
     
  15. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Sure. That swings both ways.

    If hoaxes can happen, why not again and again?

    Your niece's photo is one data point. It does not lend any credence to any other photos.
     
  16. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    No..she was crying when she told her mother about it. That's not hoaxery by some little teenage girl.
     
  17. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    How do you know?
    How do you know who perpetrated it?

    Again, if you grant that one person can decide to make a hoax (and you have no idea who it is), then the whole story is suspect.
     
  18. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Yes it does. It says this phenomena is real and can be going on in many other instances. That's a very big data point.
     
  19. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    The mother and the grandparents both vouch for her. It's the real deal.
     
  20. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    No, it's just a single mysterious photo.
     
  21. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    So you say..
     
  22. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    How do you know?

    Dude, one person can make a hoax and implicate as many people as they want.
     
  23. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    No. So you said.
     

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