ghosts in the darkness

Discussion in 'Pseudoscience Archive' started by darkladydraco, Mar 28, 2006.

  1. darkladydraco Registered Member

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    Hello. Thanks to a few viewers, I'm where I should be. My question that was asked before was if anyone had believed in the supernatual? And not the whole vampire/ware-wolf thing. I'm talking about the ghosts and spirits that roam this Earth. And I know that to some a spirit is the same as a ghost but to me they are totally different. To me a spirit is someone who has died, but instead of totally seeing them, all you see is light. A ghost is someone who has died and has unfinished buisness and you can see. Hope that makes sense. Any way, those are my questions.
    I only ask that there are other believers out there only because I feel that I am the only one.
    Thanks.

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  3. Lil Light Foot Just a fuzzy lil Fyre ball. Registered Senior Member

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    I felt it was easier to just copy and paste my other reply, rather than form another one to the same question.

    Firstly, this is a science based forum, so you are unlikely to find many believers here.
    Next, I have found myself in situations where I have experienced something which could well have been explained in such a way as spirits or ghosts.
    Next, why do you think spirits etc can exist, and werewolves etc cannot?
    You may well argue that myths have been present concerning ghosts and spirits for centuries across all cultures, but you will also find the same with dragons, shapeshifters/werewolves, vampires, demons, etc.
    So, why do you choose to believe in spirits?
     
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  5. darkladydraco Registered Member

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    Hello Lil Light Foot,

    To answer your question as to why I choose to believe in spirits and not believe in the other is mainly because I have seen spirits. I'm not saying that vampires never or don't exsist. It is quiet possible that they may have exsisted or do to this day, just not in the theatrical sense. As for werewolves, well I can say I have heard the myths but don't believe in them.
    Anyway, along with seeing spirits, I've also in a sense interacted with them. Talking and that sort of thing. Not like hunters or anything like that. I was young then. I can't hear them now, just see.
    I hope this answers your questions. Whether you agree or not, well that is up to you.
     
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  7. Salanti Registered Member

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    i believe in ghosts, spirits, demons, ect, just not bigfoot or leprecuns.

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    the fact is i've seen a few ghosts, one keeps messing with my tv and have a poltergeist that scratches the walls that i can't get rid of. Vampires i believe, not to confuse anyone with Dracula, he wasn't one.
     
  8. wesmorris Nerd Overlord - we(s):1 of N Valued Senior Member

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    The way I see it, there is no such thing as supernatural.

    Everything is perfectly natural.

    Perhaps there are spirits, perhaps not.

    I guess there are, but can' support it except by personal experience, which doesn't exactly relate to 'ghosts' or 'spirits'. One experience in particular suggests the possibility but I can't confirm it wasn't just my imagination filling in some interesting imagery/emotion.
     
  9. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    Personal opinion:
    There is no such thing as supernatural, just natural and artificial.

    For instance:
    Aurora Borealis or Northern Lights could of originally been seen as magic, spirits and therefore been termed Supernatural. The reality however is that there is a very scientific reason for why such lights are seen over the northern skies at a certain time of year. (I'm not going to go to great details here but you can find out through Wiki)

    In short something that could of been termed Supernatural is Natural.

    another occurance:
    A televised use of Zener ESP Cards. If such cards are used and ESP is discovered its usually seen as Paranormal or supernatural. In this particular experiment carried out by one of the UK television station the idea was simple, a Member of the studio audiance would pick a face-down card, view it to themselves and then place it upon the table still face down. The At home viewers would then be subjected to a screen with all the various Zener symbols, and asked to pick which one they believed to be the one the person picked and phone one of the numbers that was located with each symbol.

    The actual "Stunt" was an illusion, it utilised the fact that normal television broadcasts cover a 27-30 framerate. The television studio had placed a camera in a position to read the card that had been choosen and on reading the card it triggered an animation of the particular symbol. The animation was utilising a few "dropped frames" so it was barely viewable (it actually depicted the star shape rotating).

    In short a Supernatural/paranormal occurance was fraudulantly created to manipulate the audience to believe there was something more than a technological trick. In essence it was Artificial.

    A sentient entity in a Ghost form is likely to be artificially created. I will not state that ghosts can't be created through scientific experimentation involving Chaos mathematics and probability, however such ghosts would not be of the deceased but of the paradoxically aligned living.

    Previous conversation about "Life after death" has pretty much stated that the only way that we live on after death is by "The laws of energy conservation". Our makeup can't be destroyed outright, however it can be consumed by other life forms that go on using us as a preportion of the life cycle.
     
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