give your opinion... government lying about technology

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  1. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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    This may turn out to be true but it's still second-hand information. You're just taking somebody's word. It may turn out that the magazine Nature is also under the control of the establishment. Here's a link to some info on the mainstream media.

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    https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144487&page=44&p=4731597&viewfull=1#post4731597
     
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  3. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Yep, it's taking the word of prevailing professional expert opinion/s, rather then some baseless emotionally inane conspiracy inspired nonsense from Freddy and his dreamers.
     
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  5. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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    What do you think of the info in the link I posted?
     
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  7. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Freddy, I dealt with crazy inane conspiracy theorists for a few years...They have absolutely nothing to support their fairy tales.
    I have not read any of your nonsensical links as they are not reputable in any respect. Freddy, face it...you and your ilk, are totally out of touch with reality, and need to urgently attend to your emotional status once and for all.
    The facts stand Freddy, they will stand tomorrow, next week, and in a 100 years and beyond.
    As I said....
     
  8. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    It's from Nature. It was written by the actual people who ran the tests.
    Dude, you get your info from Youtube videos. You don't have a leg to stand on.
     
  9. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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    This is from the summary I showed you. I'll post the whole thing in case it goes off-line.

    https://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/docs/b04151999_bt170-99.htm
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    RAND REVIEW INDICATES NO EVIDENCE OF HARMFUL HEALTH EFFECTS FROM DEPLETED URANIUM

    The Department of Defense announced today the release of a RAND scientific literature review that indicates no evidence of harmful health effects directly linked to depleted uranium exposures at levels experienced by Gulf War veterans.

    The report, "A Review of the Scientific Literature as it Pertains to Gulf War Illnesses: Volume 7 Depleted Uranium," is the latest report commissioned by the office of the special assistant for Gulf War illnesses. The report responds to veterans' concerns that depleted uranium might be the cause of some of their illnesses.

    The report states that there are no peer reviewed published reports of detectable increases of cancer or other negative health effects from radiation exposure to inhaled or ingested natural uranium at levels far exceeding those likely in the Gulf. This is mainly because the body is very effective at eliminating ingested and inhaled uranium and because the low radioactivity of natural or depleted uranium means that the mass of uranium needed for significant internal exposure is virtually impossible to obtain. Large variations in exposure to radioactivity from natural uranium in the normal environment have not been associated with negative health effects.

    Exposure to uranium at high doses can cause kidney problems. However, no increase in kidney disease has been observed in relatively large occupational populations chronically exposed to natural uranium at concentrations above normal ambient levels.

    Researchers at the Baltimore VA Medical Center are following the group of Gulf War Veterans with the greatest exposure to depleted uranium, veterans with embedded fragments. Although these individuals have an array of health problems, many of which are related to their combat injuries, researchers say "To date no manifestations of kidney disease attributable to the chemical toxicity of depleted uranium have been found; neither do these individuals appear to have manifestations attributable to radiation effects."

    RAND is a nonprofit institution with a long history of independent research. RAND had experts review the literature, including Dr. Naomi Harley, an authority on radiation physics, Dr. Ernest Foulkes, a heavy metal toxicologist, and Dr. Lee Hilborne, a pathologist. Their review encompassed literature relating to both radiation and heavy metal toxicity risks published or accepted for publication in peer-reviewed journals, books, government publications and conference proceedings.

    This paper, as well as the RAND literature review on oil well fires and the Defense Department's environmental exposure report on depleted uranium are posted on the GulfLINK web site, at http//www.gulflink.osd.mil.
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    Do you think that official info debunks what's said in these videos?
    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=depleted uranium iraq&FORM=HDRSC3
     
  10. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Why would we read something that's about to be pulled down? Anybody can post crap that will escape the bullshit detectors for a short while.

    That's why peer-reviewed works are valuable.
     
  11. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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    Classic behavior of a checkmated sophist.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand-waving
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    Hand-waving (with various spellings) is a pejorative label for attempting to be seen as effective – in word, reasoning, or deed – while actually doing nothing effective or substantial
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    If the opponent in a debate or a commentator on an argument alleges hand-waving, it suggests that the proponent of the argument, position or message has engaged in one or more fallacies of logic,[2] usually informal, and/or glossed over non-trivial details,[2] and is attempting to wave away challenges and deflect questions, as if swatting at flies.
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  12. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Your credibility is minus Freddy, and as I have remarked more then once, whether your are actually an emotionally committed tin foil hat brigade or a troll, I havn't really decided.
    Either way and as I said, it's taking the word of prevailing professional expert opinion/s, rather then some baseless emotionally inane conspiracy inspired nonsense from Freddy and his dreamers.
     
  13. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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    In other words, you're checkmated by my question so you're refusing to address it.
     
  14. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    No, not at all, as evidenced by your lack of general support.
    Plus of course your total lack of any credibility, here and elsewhere, and of course the overall evidence opposing your nonsense and inane thoughts.
    And just to re-enforce my previous factual statement, taking the word of prevailing professional expert opinion/s, rather then some baseless emotionally inane conspiracy inspired nonsense from Freddy and his dreamers.
    How many forums have you been banned from Freddy ol son for similar inane nonsense?

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  15. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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  16. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Gotter selbst vergebens.
     
  17. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    some people think there is a covid 19 vaccine already made and made by the same people who made covid 19
    and they are waiting for the price to go up
    before they sell it to control the world

    but they also think it was made by china in one of their weapons labs
    and the same people think it could have been made by the usa as a fake to tell people they cant walk around carrying machine guns in schools & shopping malls

    it is quite a large variety of tin foil hats to choose from
     
  18. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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    Here are some of those theories.
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/is-covid-19-handmade.571125/
     
  19. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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  20. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    anecdote:
    circa 1969, site R(us army)
    We had a computer hooked up to a secure internet of other computers in other secure bunker complexes for the nmcc and anmcc
    and, still(51 years later)
    that ain't been declassified
    even though it represents really old technology

    when will you know what was hidden?
     
  21. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    You mean all those UFO sightings are really the work of the government? lol

    Although, that would be a cool conspiracy theory.

    Joking aside, where would the money come from to explore, invent, and design this extraordinary technology? Such a feat would require a lot of funding. The government couldn't keep that from the public.
     
  22. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Well there is the million dollar coffee maker for the White House kitchen which morphs a into a $40 one from Walmart with the change going to Area 51

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  23. Luchito Registered Senior Member

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    Very interesting.

    Usually NASA responds to such views on their videos when asked.

    Any explanation given by NASA about it?
     

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