God as One

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Fork, Sep 16, 2013.

  1. Fork Banned Banned

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    What does this have to do with neurotheology? Insofar as God is
    generally defined as the Prime Mover or first principle of reality,
    God is by definition real, and thus a part of the real universe. And
    because this first principle is by definition primary — because there
    is by definition no preexisting reality to contain it — reality cannot
    properly include it. So the real universe must coincide with God;
    scientific knowledge is theological knowledge, and science a form of
    theology. It follows that our ability to use science to better the
    plight of our species - our capacity to know God and to help others
    know God — is part of what makes us "special". And where true science
    is a key ingredient of our claim to metaphysical distinctiveness, our
    place in the hierarchy of being cannot be threatened by science done
    thoroughly, correctly, and without a priori restrictions on our role
    in the scheme of things.

    But what is that role? Where does humanity fit into the scheme even
    now being revealed to us by science.. .we, who have lately found
    ourselves reduced to the wearing of metaphysical sackcloth? It turns
    out that in a certain precise sense, we are microsms, images of the
    universe within the universe. And because of the symmetric connection
    between source and image, cosmos and microcosm, we function as agents
    through whom the universe realizes its being. We are its children and
    heirs, poised on the threshold of adulthood and charged with shaping
    Destiny itself, with helping the living universe choose its form and
    content from a background of undifferentiated potential. Though eons
    removed from the moment of creation, we actively retrodict it, sending
    the power of our minds back through time to help the Prime Mover, our
    parent and provider, selfcreatively embody the universe we inhabit.

    On the Perils of Metaphysical Skysurfing without a Parachute.
     
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  3. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Islam has no more validity of being true than any other religion, regardless of who lays claim. The only valid religion is the one that can produce the god that is claimed to exist within that religion.
     
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  5. PsychoticEpisode It is very dry in here today Valued Senior Member

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    Everyone who becomes a believer in a god has to first believe what people tell them. Unless you formulated the concept without any human intervention, this is an irrevocable fact. Human beings are sinners last time I checked. Therefore to become a believer in a god, a sinner must first believe a sinner. Anybody who preaches, teaches, or participates in the name of their religion is also a sinner. The religions are sustained by sinners, the truth is maintained by sinners, does that make you feel comfortable in your belief?

    Since we all have been labelled sinners then by their own nature, god religions have told us that no one can be trusted, that would include their own members all the way from top to bottom.
     
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  7. arauca Banned Banned

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    As long we embrace religion and not to serve God we will be fighting each other . Lets stop this nonsense my religion is better the your religion , and start to practice the guidance on how serve God and be nice to human.
     
  8. arauca Banned Banned

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    Jesus sent his spirit to God as he was dying.
     
  9. arauca Banned Banned

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    I agre with such statement.
     
  10. arauca Banned Banned

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    I don't have a problem admitting that I am a sinner, ( sin is a transgression against who ever I have transgressed ) Now if I ask for forgiveness then my transgression should be washed away. So according to your analysis were does leave me ?
     
  11. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Preaching is not allowed on the site. It's a bannable offense, IIRC.
     
  12. arauca Banned Banned

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    what is considered preaching ?
     
  13. Robittybob1 Banned Banned

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    That is not preaching IMO. You are just expressing your belief.
     
  14. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Post #21 is preaching/evangelizing.

    And post #20

    Stating "I believe..." is fine but when it starts to sound like a Sunday school lesson or a Deacon preaching from the pulpit addressing his congregation, that's considered "preaching." I don't care for it, either. :/
     
  15. Robittybob1 Banned Banned

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    ^^^That is preaching of the worst type possible.
     
  16. Robittybob1 Banned Banned

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    We should go and see what the rules state. It might be worth it for me too for some of what I say must come close to preaching. Especially when I bring down Hellfire on my enemies.
     
  17. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Do you really believe in a fiery place where "unrepentant sinners" will be sent for all eternity?
    I never believed that, ever. That there is this mystical "Hades" ruling the underworld where people will be "writhing" in pain.
    The Bible is a book of fear designed by early church clergy to control the masses.
    There is some beauty within it, but it's largely designed to instill fear and control.

    Anyway!

    Edit to add; I don't have to find the rules. If you wouldn't preach like this at your employer, then don't do it here. That's how I view it. When in doubt, ask yourself if you would "preach" in a similar way at your place of employment.
     
  18. Robittybob1 Banned Banned

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    It's a fact most people would not mention religion at work. What I tell them at work is to read the Beautiful Christian Song thread and they went on and saw the song about Dinah Moe Humm. That was quite educational for them!
     
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    Hall can be if you get into eternity , and you can have a long time to have remorse for not living the proper way . I hear this from Inmates sentenced for life who regret for what thy have done during their young life which lead them for life sentence . that is a hell also.
     
  20. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Haha oops!

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    This site is pretty welcoming and hospitable to faith discussions, but preaching is a different thing.

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  21. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    One of those is polytheistic. One of them is duotheistic. And the last one isn't a single religious tradition that you can generalise a theology from.
    You're blowing smoke out your ass.

    Yes, and plenty of people believe in deity largely through religious or mystical experiences.

    "Checked" where? Some book put down by a couple of old men?
     
  22. PsychoticEpisode It is very dry in here today Valued Senior Member

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    If you can find us one person who formulated a god belief without ever hearing the word "god" or a reasonable facsimile prior to their experiences then please share it with us. I have no doubt that at some time in the past at least one person was able to do it.

    'Last time I checked' is in reference to a sermon I heard at a local Christian church only 2 months ago. Often, because of what I do, I find myself in a situation where I sit down with the flock and listen to what's being preached. I've actually heard it countless times so unless I misunderstood what you're saying then I would consider this a reasonable check on my part.
     
  23. Robittybob1 Banned Banned

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    Someone had to be the first. Go back far enough down the evolutionary scale where did it begin? Once it started, now try and stop it?
     

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