God is an impossible object.

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Ted Grant II, Dec 6, 2016.

  1. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    No, science has all but eliminated any need for any god.
     
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  3. river Valued Senior Member

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    Need for god ?

    Has it ?

    Abiologists will find that their experiment will work .

    We have discussed this before , pad .
     
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  5. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Yes and you still seem confused on many issues and it still hasn't sunk in.

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  7. river Valued Senior Member

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    Hmmm.... what issues ?
     
  8. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Most all issues that you ever discuss river.....
    You see while reading is a great past time [I do plenty myself] it is always open to any Tom, Dick and Harry, to abuse and create whatever fatnasy he or she likes.
    Your Brandeburg nut, and his Atomic war on Mars comes to mind....Von Daniken's nonsensical baseless ancient Aliens crap....the Bermuda Triangle rubbish...Astrology, etc etc etc
    This also applies to forums such as this......

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    Anyone can come here and say what they like, including me. Except of course mostly what I say is supported by evidence and is generally accepted knowledge.
    But forums are open to all, and some have more lax rules then others. In essesnce, some of the nonsensical claims that are allowed to be made on this forum, are totally banned on others, or they are required to support their stance and answer all questions within a month before the thread is closed.

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    Evolution of life is a certainty. Abiogenisis is the only scientific answer available, the only argument being what exact mechanism, eg: specifically on Earth, Panspermia etc.

    Religion and god is simply a way out to many to explain what science at this time cannot explain.But religion raises the same questions and more.
    see my old mate Professor Sagan and that couragous inevitable question at the 30 second mark....


    As usual river, its been a pleasure helping you to put things in the right perspective.

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  9. river Valued Senior Member

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    god is not an object ; rather god is a living being ; from the sub-atomic ; to the macro objects .
     
  10. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Living beings are objects.
     
  11. Ted Grant II Registered Senior Member

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    We are told that God created matter and that God was not created, so God cannot be matter, so he can only be mind. But a mind cannot exist without matter, in the same way that software cannot exist without hardware, therefore God (as defined) cannot exist.
     
  12. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Not that I want to lend any credence to this, but:

    It seems kind of naive to assume that the "mind" of this God is limited by our concept of the mind of humans.

    As soon as one posits the existence of God, one kind of throws ideas like 'mind cannot exist with matter' out the window.

    It makes about as much sense as saying 'how could God breathe in space?'
     
  13. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    Where does it say God created matter and who told you ?
     
  14. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Genesis?
     
  15. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    God created heaven and earth . Matter is something else . Earth is made of matter . So the matter was there in a mass of a mixture of compounds , compounds are made of atoms . I believe there is a difference between compounds and atoms which are matter.
     
  16. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    And you assert this because...
     

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