God needs Devil to make the show?

Discussion in 'Religion Archives' started by Saint, Oct 30, 2012.

  1. Saint Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    4,752
    You can see that the story of Bible is actually a show about the fight between God and Satan.

    By theory, God exists first, without Him nothing can exist.

    If God did not create anything, he got nothing to do, right?
    He purposely created angles that have the probability to become evil (christians do not like to say "God created devil"), and then humans,
    so that God got something to do.

    Is it right?
     
  2. Google AdSense Guest Advertisement



    to hide all adverts.
  3. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    54,036
    That means God is evil. But God still has nothing to do.
     
  4. Google AdSense Guest Advertisement



    to hide all adverts.
  5. Saint Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    4,752
    Why an omnipotent God can have nothing to do?
     
  6. Google AdSense Guest Advertisement



    to hide all adverts.
  7. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    13,968
    Saint,

    Quite possibly, but an actual fight between God and Satan would be a no brainer as to who would win.
    I think the bible is about the masculine and feminine nature, Adam representing the masculine, and Eve the feminine.
    Note that the feminie aspect is born out of the masculine. The Bible inadvertantly tells of the different natures and how they act upon the living entity, the consequences of imbalance. God represents spirit/male and Satan represent matter/female.

    Eve the feminine representation of Adam becomes seduced, and Adam, representing the masculine, makes the choice to follow his passion (Eve), hence the fall begins. Prior to the personification of Adam's feminine desires (Eve), there was a balance.


    That suggests that God is alone, so He creates toys to amuse Himself. This is a misconception in my view, one that has become the dominant idea since the putting together of the Bible.
    It leads us to believe that Adam and Eve were the first of these toys, a bored Supreme Being decided to create so that He
    could have some company. The script itself (Bible), which is incomplete, and put together to give a specific interpretation, does not support that idea.




    I don't think so.
    I think it is a western depiction of God, designed for the western mind.

    jan
     
  8. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    54,036
    Because he's omnipotent.
     
  9. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    7,057
    That depends on whose propaganda you believe. For all we know, the God of the Bible might be a little nobody who's just puffing himself up.
     
  10. kx000 Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    5,136
    Who is God? Who is Satan? I theorize God is the father, Love. Satan is the winged evil son of all the universe, the mighty angel Tempt.

    This is no show. These are natural feeling to the universe that can not co-exist on the same Heavenly plain if there be a perfect eternity for good & evil alike.
     
  11. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    13,968
    You imply there are different propagandas. What are they?


    jan.
     
  12. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    13,968
    Who is the universe?

    jan.
     
  13. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    7,057
    I'm saying that there could be two different stories. Why do you accept God's version hook, line and sinker? What if Satan is really the good guy?
     
  14. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    13,968
    It's not really about ''good guys'' and ''bad guys''.
    God is summum bonum, that is what it means. If Lucifer were summum bonum, then he would be God, not Lucifer.
    The stories are indicative of our own struggles, so that at some point we can find our way back to God, or to reality.

    jan.
     
  15. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    7,057
    Exactly. But how do you know which is which? What if Lucifer sent his only-begotten son to muddy the water by spreading evil in the name of good?
     
  16. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    13,968
    If Lucifer were God, then he would be God, not Lucifer.
    God represents reality, and Lucifer represent illusion, and both states are within us, so it is therefore up to us
    to utilise our intelligence, to discriminate.

    jan.

    jan.
     
  17. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    7,057
    Again... how do you know that? How do you know that the "God" in the storoes IS God? How do you know that HIS ideas aren't the illusions?
     
  18. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    13,968
    You're missing the point. I don't read the stories then decide to believe that is true. I relate to the stories via experience.
    The stories are merely representations of the turmoil. For example someone may have an excellent explanation of what it's like
    to lose someone close to you. But untill they experience it, they can never know it. If after years of speculation that person does lose someone close to them, then they will be able to discriminate between the speculative explanations, and the explanations born out of experience.

    jan.
     
  19. KilljoyKlown Whatever Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    6,493
    If there is a God why doesn't he just put in a personal appearance and clear up any misconceptions on the subject?

    Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!

     
  20. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    54,036
    Because he's a silly little bitch.
     
  21. Saturnine Pariah Hell is other people Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,072
    Yet he (since the Abrahamic god created a patriarchal society/religion must be referred to as a male)only appears to group of primitive, desert dwelling people who had no real forms off mass communication or for all practical matters any form of a scientific method to question the claims.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSyC8HgkvB8
     
  22. kx000 Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    5,136
    All that is.
     
  23. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    13,968
    What misconceptions?

    jan.
     

Share This Page