Discussion in 'Politics' started by Ultron, Nov 9, 2016.
If a simple statement of fact is considered racist, the term is now meaningless.
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Wow, you are so right. I never considered that. Many in war torn or countries with bad governments where people are oppressed for various reasons look up to america as a beacon of hope, that its not just a dream but there exists a country, people etc fighting the good fight and in many ways won. However they are oppressed or rights they are denied or exploited. Wow, so true. That someone also cares about these things and they are winners or overcame. America is an example to many obscure people out there.
Well, since you want to play that silly game. You started it, trump and his supporters. You can dismiss their rampant hate and nasty offensive, even assaultive disposition all you want. Hate begets hate. Stop pretending you dont know.
Incorrect. It was based upon the sculptors mistress and his mother, both of whom were white.
well as Trump declared at one of his recent rallies
"The American dream is dead"
and... well ...he has killed it for so many .....
comparing trump to lech walesa is an insult to lech walesa
More often than not, racist graffiti turns turns out to be a false flag operation performed by those on the left.
Trump was elected in part by doing better among blacks and Hispanics than Romney. Without the increase in minority support, Trump would not be president right now.
Do you want me to admit the obvious. Granted, even the masses are so stupid often to not recognize beyond caricatures of people. Yes, there are racist people of all races not just whites. There are bad people of all races too. But is that the kind of country you want where its toxic and mean and rude and hateful etc? I remember a time when it was more acceptable to be racist and it wasnt just whites oppressing or using slurs but again, it wasnt good. It was aggressive, dehumanizing and damaging.
Basically, no one needs that bullshit of being harassed or having to deal with that type of drama when they arent either bothering anyone or going about their business!!! You dig??!! Its just very irritating and annoying. Honestly, you think what is their fuking problem? Dont they have better things to do or worry about than spewing hate or bullying people? Dont you know what racist people like that do? They take their issues out on others, even randomly. They violate others personal space, get in their face, not only say uncalled for offensive things but also may be physically aggressive. Same with sexists. Do you think thats right? Is that the type of society you want that racism and sexism against eachother is okay??? Take away labels such as sexism or racism or discrimination etc, its just essentially mental and emotional abuse.
Actually no, these are two violent and awful people. The protests against Trump and the fact that Clinton won the popular vote and still isn't President, have been pretty much peaceful. Don't forget, your candidate urged people to take to the streets if he lost. Meanwhile, there are dozens upon dozens of attacks on minorities and women, many of the victims being children, by your fellow Trump supporters.
Tell me, Madanthonywayne, how does it feel to cast your lot with white supremacists? Feel good?
But fear not, some of your fellow Trump supporters are going to be holding a rally in his honour at the start of December.
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TRUMP = TRUMP'S RACE UNITED MY PEOPLE
Greetings , I would like to take this opportunity to tell you a little about the Loyal White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, and hopefully dispel some of the lies told about us by the liberal news media. Let me start by addressing the repeated falsehood that we are a "HATE GROUP". Let me assure you that nothing could be further from the truth. We do not hate any group of people! However, we do hate some things that certain groups are doing to our race and our nation. We hate drugs, homosexuality, abortion and race-mixing, because these things go against God's law and they are destroying all white nations. But rather than focus on hate, we try to focus on the love of our race. We Love for our Lord and Savior and our Country.
Our goal is to help restore America to a White Christian nation, founded on God's word. This does not mean that we want to see anything bad happen to the darker races ... we simply want to live separate from them ... As GOD intended. (Lev.20:24-25) It is a simple fact that whenever these races try to integrate themselves into White society, that society is damaged immensely ... perhaps even destroyed altogether. Everything that we do as Klan members is in furtherance of our ultimate goal. We are not evil; hateful people as our enemies would have you believe. We are common white people from all walks of life who have recognized the problems that our race is facing. We have chose to stand and fight for those things that we hold dear to our people. Won't you stand with us, while there is still time! It is the duty of all white Christian men and women to fight against the Communist who have stolen our Nation.
[HDLP Flag] Finally the Loyal White Knights are more than just a KLAN we are a Brotherhood. More like a family; we are always trying to do whats best for our members. To strengthen the bonds of Christian fellowship among our brothers and sisters. We would love for all white Christian Americans to become a part of our family. To take place in the struggle for our peoples survival. Our great race has created all which is great in the world today. Just look at Europe, the great buildings and monuments our people have erected.
Just look at America the Country that our forefathers fought and died for. They tried to make a white Christian homeland for its people. Which they did our people knew the value of its blood. We as a people knew not to mix with the darker races our own Government knew the downfall of what would happen if we did.They even had laws to prevent race mixed marriages on the books until 1959. It was not until the late 70's to mid 80's you really started to see mixed couples in the streets of America. Even then it was still rare it was more around the early 90's is when this trend started to spread.
The Communist said they would bring America down without one shot being fired. They said they would win the WAR against Christian America with its own people. They crept right into our Government and changed its whole out look on the world. Just look at the Government controlled T.V. shows of today. Compared to what most Americans watched in the 50's to the 80's and you will see the trend in which is destroying our youth and our people. Just look at the crime rate in America today compared to the past.
Most of our youth are on DRUGS or pregnant with a mongrel child. If our forefathers could see America today they would have our Government Leaders put to DEATH. For Treason against the American people. They are rolling in their graves as you read this now. We as a people can change this course in which America has taken. We need to come together as WHITE CHRISTIAN AMERICANS and spread the word to others. Grab the blind Liberals by their heads and shake them until they wake up. From their JEW TUBE naps and tell them to look around because the ship is sinking. And through the Ku Klux Klan we will wake America up to the evils which are in our Government. We will unite proud white Americans to our cause because we have the LORD on our side. And with CHRIST we can't lose. So if you are White and proud join the crowd join the Loyal White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan TODAY!!!!
Perhaps you should attend. Seeing how you are defending Trump and celebrating a "great victory over political correctness", this should be right up your alley, shouldn't it? Didn't you say that you share 93% of Trump's ideology, along with this lot?
Hey, you never know, Don might attend. After all, it is in his honour. You could even get a photo. Maybe buy some souvenirs.
I have to ask though, how can you live with the fact that you share so much in common with the KKK? That you share your 93% in common with them in your collective belief and support of Trump? How can you look your kids in the face and tell them that you support a candidate who has been endorsed and supported by the KKK?
Because personally, I couldn't do it. No matter how much I might have detested Clinton, I couldn't vote for someone who fed and encouraged this level of bigoted rhetoric and who was so soundly supported by these people. I'd leave it blank if need be. So how do you do it? How did you do it? How did you cast your lot with people who view a white woman carrying a non white child as being pregnant with a "mongrel"?
Except, it's not just graffiti, is it?
People are physically harassing others, verbally harassing and threatening others all in the name of Trump.
Are you going to suggest these are false flag operations too?
I mean, far out, dude, you can't even condemn or speak out against such actions and behaviour.
No, it isn't. That's the cover story - if you read the title of this thread, and compare with Trump's rhetoric, you must agree that Trump's incivility (not content) is what has won, and therefore what is meant by PC on this thread. His content of ideas, such as it is, is unexceptional and irrelevant on those occasions when it is not falsehood, and is not at issue.
You guys live in one of the weirdest fantasy bubbles there is.
Untrue. The swing States he won featured a reduction in minority voting, correlated with the minority vote suppression efforts of the Republican Party.
It is possible that a reduction in the minority vote granted to Clinton was responsible for her loss, but Trump's absolute numbers were too low for his increase in percentage over Romney to be responsible for his win.
Trump won because an unusually large number of white bigots and fundies turned out and voted for him.
Thank you for taking the time and effort to explain all that for me.
You know these people are kinda selfish. For those who have not been to america, all those red states in the midwest besides the south is a lot of open land, dotted with many towns filled with mostly or all whites. Actually they have most of the united states. And besides most non-whites dont care to move there anyways. Usually immigrants want to mingle with different types of people, thats why they immigrated and mostly congregate in multicultural centers. Would a kkk member think of relocating to china? Heck no. The most progressive or multicultural places are usually the major cities. As if those bigots dont have enough room or something. Its no ones fault their boring towns dont get traffic except to pass through. What are they complaining about? There are many or virtually all white towns and suburbs. Where do these people get the idea that people want to live among them so much? They can keep their piggly wiggly and white picket fence. No one is bothering them or their way of life.
I find it extremely difficult to accept that there are such folk in USA who are so hateful and intolerant.
It is clear that is the real problem I hope the nation can overcome the hate that I now notice.
It is sad that folk who say they believe in Jesus simply reject his teachings which I think could be distilled into "love your fellow man".
I guess they missed that page of their bible.
This is ridiculous. The statue's design almost certainly evolved from an earlier concept Bartholdi proposed for a colossal monument in Egypt, for which the artist used his drawings of Egyptian women as models. Overwhelming majority of Egyptians are not black. I have been in Egypt three times and Egyptians are not very politically correct people, so if you would say to Egyptians that they are black, you would get your ass kicked very quickly.
Claim 3: The original model for the Statue of Liberty was a black woman, but the design was changed to appease white Americans who would not accept an African-American Liberty.
Finding: The statue's design almost certainly evolved from an earlier concept Bartholdi proposed for a colossal monument in Egypt, for which the artist used his drawings of Egyptian women as models. Bartholdi’s preliminary design for the Statue of Liberty is consistent with contemporary depictions of Liberty, but differs markedly from sculptures representing freed American slaves and Civil War soldiers. Bartholdi changed a broken shackle and chain in the statue's left hand to tablets inscribed "July IV, MDCCLXXVI” (July 4, 1776) at Laboulaye's request, to emphasize a broader vision of liberty for all mankind. There is no evidence that Bartholdi's “original” design was perceived by white American supporters or the United States government as representing a black woman, or was changed on those grounds.
I spent time today to look into this.
I understand what you mean now.
Not to mention the overt threats from white supremacists to "monitor" polling booths on election day and threatening a race war if Trump lost. Because that's going to encourage minorities to go out and vote...
It is hateful.
And right now, no one from Trump or the GOP are willing to stand up to them post election and say "no more". Not a single one. Which says a lot.
Meanwhile, in Trump-land:
During Donald Trump's presidential campaign, in which he embraced hardline immigration policies championed by white nationalists, his backers scoffed at the idea that he was winking at the white nationalists who cheered him on. But the ties between Trump and far-right white nationalist groups are coming into focus. Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, who has joined Trump's transition team to advise him on immigration, spoke last year at a conference for a white nationalist group.
Last October, Kobach was a featured speaker at a writers' workshop hosted by the Social Contract Press in Washington, DC. The Southern Poverty Law Center has designated the Social Contract Press as an anti-immigrant hate group for its ties to white nationalists and for publishing their work. As its website notes, "Recent articles in its main product, The Social Contract, have propagated the myth that Latino activists want to occupy and 'reclaim' the American Southwest, argued that no Muslim immigrants should be allowed into the U.S., and claimed that multiculturalists are trying to replace 'successful Euro-American culture' with 'dysfunctional Third World cultures.'"
Rather than apologize for speaking at the event, Kobach, who is well known as the legal architect of anti-immigrant policies across the country, defended the group. He has ties to its founder. In May, the white nationalist website VDARE.com, another SPLC-designated hate website that publishes race scientists and anti-Semites, called on Trump to pick Kobach as his running mate. He is now one step closer to President-elect Trump.
I guess their silence over the hate crimes being committed and the uptick in racist attacks makes a lot more sense now...
Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
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Texas State University police confirmed they are investigating reports of threatening fliers posted on campus by alleged supporters of president-elect Donald Trump.
Police declined to give further information until Thursday, but a Texas State student and a Texas State employee said several of the fliers have been found around campus.
"Now that our man Trump is elected and Republicans own both the Senate and the House -- time to organize tar & feather vigilante squads and go arrest and torture those deviant university leaders spouting off all this diversity garbage," at least one of the fliers reads, according to a photo that the university community is sharing.
And on and on and on it goes.
'America, fuck yeah!'
Irony. So you are now arguing that the Statue of Liberty was based or designed around Middle Eastern women...
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Tell you the truth, that one looks like what people call a "false flag" operation. For starters, it's kind of literary - "spouting off"? Nah - wrong tone.
A little while ago a couple of Israeli researchers showed that one way to actually persuade an extreme opinion holder to scale back and question their beliefs was to agree with them, but in exaggerated language - it evoked a re-examination by them of their own opinions, in reaction to seeing their logical extension. That was published research, and famous for a week or so around liberal arts colleges.
That flyer looks like an attempt at using that technique.
Didn't Wikileaks show us how the Democrats paid people, to create trouble at Trump rallies, so their media supporters can spin the story into Trump supporters being violent? I would not put the flier incident past the Democrats. The Trump supporter won, so they don't need to play games like the war is still on. The losers do that. I bet you can trace the Anti-Trump riots back to Democrat operatives and organizers being paid for by Soros and the Democrats. The party of scams and deception is about to implode under its own scams.
I heard that the statue of liberty was based on a French woman.
The Statue of Liberty, the most famous symbolic statue of a woman, was modeled after Marie Bartholdi, the sculptor's mother. One way to prove this get a picture of the statues face and the that of the sculpture and compare mother and son.
Again, misinformation is the way of the left. Constant misinformation has turned many young people into emotional wrecks, who have been conditioned to judge by emotional appeal instead of fact checking. This is the downside of feminism.
Using feminism as a way to manipulate the masses, is based on the template, tell then what they want to hear. This is what guys, do to women in bars, to get then in the mood. Truth is not as effective, since the lounge lizard creates fantasy, driven by emotions.
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