greek gods

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  1. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    something i have long wondered:
    Why was Iapetos often refered to as "Great Iapetos"?
     
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  3. mathman Valued Senior Member

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    Father of mankind?
     
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  5. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    yeh well
    that was one of the things attributed to him(via creating mortality), and his son.
    Iapetos the piercer was one of the older titans, and seemingly a valued warrior

    I've yet to find a more direct line to the reasoning behind "the great iapetos"'

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    i ain't completely confused yet
    but i am working on it
     
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  7. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Looks like he may have been one of the elder Titans.
    https://greekmythology.wikia.org/wiki/Iapetos#

    p.s. sculptor, is your avatar based on Iapetus?
     
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  8. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    No
    very human persian wars veteran.
    I wanted to make him old, scarred, war-weary and wary
    face

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    he has aphrodite painted on the inside of his shield.

    your link had one of the sons of iapetos wrong
    Atlas, Prometheus, Epimetheus, and Menoetius.
    atlas enduring strength
    prometheus forethought
    epimetheus afterthought(aka the idiot)
    menoetius the proud one----doomed power
    Menoetius was a tad too proud, rash and quick to violent anger
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    and
    still
    why great?
     
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  9. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Looks like Kronos (Cronus) was Iapetus' brother.

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    The Titans
    https://www.greeklegendsandmyths.com/

    Would this make a great bas-relief?
     
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  10. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    yep
    iapetos and 3 other brothers held their father down while kronos castrated him............
     
  11. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Looks like in mythology and religion someone always has to die, starting with "patricide" and "fratercide" by the Titans, Cain killing his brother Abel, and ending with Jesus' cruxifiction by the lowly humans.

    Can we really learn anything from all that endless mayhem?
     
  12. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Nothing specific but one Google had a brief mention he made himself great and a little bit later mentioned he was one of the pillars holding up the sky

    Later a hint he took on the other three pillars

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  13. geordief Valued Senior Member

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    Sure ,life is composed of the extremes and the mundane.

    We learn from all our experiences.

    When Woody Guthrie died from Huntingdon disease the pain was apparently so severe that the question has been asked whether his pain had morphed to ecstasy.

    The religious stories are part of humankind's overall experience ..just one part of the mosaic.
     
  14. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    would you please flesh this out a tad more?
     
  15. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    But great Kronos the wily took courage and answered his dear mother : ‘Mother, I will undertake to do this deed

    Also further down

    great Ouranos

    so great may just be padding, not a descriptive of abilities

    https://www.theoi.com/Titan/TitanIapetos.html

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  16. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    Was bad, bad Leroy Brown badder than Big Bad John?
     
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  18. Dennis Tate Valued Senior Member

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    I can only make a wild guess.... but here goes.....




    http://reluctant-messenger.com/eden_1.htm
     
  19. Luchito Registered Senior Member

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    Gods love blood.
     
  20. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    No they don't. Gods are not physical creatures. People love blood. There are many examples of cannibalism.

    Cannibalism

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    Cannibalism in Brazil engraving by Theodor de Bry to illustrate Hans Staden's account of his captivity in 1557

    Description
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_cannibalism
     
  21. Luchito Registered Senior Member

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    As far as I know, the cases of cannibalism performed for cause of rituals or worship to a god, are almost none. Most ancient cultures made sacrifices to calm the fury of the gods or as a sign of worship, but they didn't eat the bodies of the victims.

    Cannibalism in humans is rare, documents from Spaniard chroniclers on XV century and forward relate such custom in certain zones of South America.

    Human and animal sacrifices offered to gods is found in most of ancient cultures.

    Cannibalism was also found in times of extreme though climate eras, like right before the end of the first millennium. A convent priest wrote the environment in those days, where people not having food to eat started to kill other people and have them for lunch and dinner. This happened in Europe, and cases were when authorities sentenced to death the cannibals to later they -the authorities themselves- eat their bodies... lol

    You traveled and found a place to stay the night, and the very next day you were the breakfast for the owner of the hostel.
     
  22. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Human cannibalism
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_cannibalism#

    11 Cannibals From Mythology Around The World

    Cronus, Who Ate (And Regurgitated) His Own Children

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    Photo: Francisco Goya / Wikimedia Commons / Public Domain
    https://www.ranker.com/list/creepy-mythology-cannibals/lea-rose-emery
     
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  23. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    Staden later claimed to have cured the tribal king and his household from illness through the power of prayer and Christianity

    be mindful of your sources
     

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