Growing Bamboo in the UK as a farming crop

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  1. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    is it possible ?

    https://www.saga.co.uk/magazine/home-garden/gardening/plants/perennials/how-to-grow-bamboo

    land use for wool Vs land use for bamboo as a quantity of fabric to product value.

    i should imagine that growing bamboo that can be harvested and turned into fabric, while along side top end wool would be an ideal compromise of land use to carbon issues around sustainability, wet-land sustainability & job creation.

    thoughts ?

    bamboo paper wipes are flush-able and compostable ?
     
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  3. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Water intensive?

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  5. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    "lyocell process" sounds interesting(only just googled it so know absolutely nothing about it)
    with hemp(cant be too far off surely) & bamboo supplying the fabric market...
    how many jobs would that create ?

    UK has vast amounts of small block land that could grow a couple of acres.
    collective planting & harvesting to maximize costing
    UK is no stranger to collective market gardening.(did they invent it?)

    Water use is always an issue with all manufacturing.
    be it for drinking water or sugar loaded soda-pop drinks that cost hundreds of millions in health cost for diabetes & all manner of things...
     
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  7. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Here in Darwin Australia we see Pop up shops selling bed bamboo fabrics and currently bamboo underware ad on TV

    Probably same around Australia and the world as they try to open up new market

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  8. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    There's a patch of bamboo growing at the Washington University Research Center that gets no special treatment, Missouri's annual rainfall is just fine.
     
  9. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    needs no pesticides !
    is about the processing of the plant into the finished product.
    the industrial process of turning the bamboo or other plant material into a fabric uses large amounts of water.
    large amounts is a comparable-subjective aspect to other processes, however is a big issue around developing technology because of th eprice of water and the over use & poor management of the resource by governments and regulatory bodys.

    hence my comment around real cost to tax payers and the community and country at large
    think of the massive amount of water wasted to make soda-pop-fizzy drink that then in turn gives children diabetes which in turn costs the country billions.

    not to be confused with water intensive feeding of crops that have exploited the natural water supplys by theft and have now got monopoly control of markets and distribution channels leaving a hostage situation which many politicians pay homage to.

    the unbelievably high cost of tax payers funding bad diet for children resulting in life long health problems is mind boggling.
    that fact doesnt seem to lend any weight excuse the pun to the idea of making children healthier for their own benefit.
    such is the human animal.
    childrens rights Vs parents perceived rights to try and control other peoples children for their religious purposes etc...
    its all a game to most.


    the issue is 3 fold
    1 types of production and whom controls the access to those
    2 the type of production and how it uses resources and creates waste
    3 the type of finished product and who controls distribution of that

    4th is public perception which is much like advertising issues.
    25 years ago had you asked someone if they are recycling their plastic they probably would laugh at you and think you were making a joke.
    today, it is a socially expected moral conformity.
    social morality
    morals...
     
  10. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    Bamboo is relentlessly invasive. Consider that. The plant spreads underground. I watched it advance year after year.
     
  11. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    some new news for you.
    there is 2 basic varieties
    1 is called "running"
    the other
    is called "clumping"

    http://www.bamboogarden.com/Hardy clumping.htm
    year 1

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  12. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    there is 3 basic varieties
    the other one is almost a single bamboo shoot like the types you see in bamboo Forrest in movies.
     
  13. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    I just dropped napalm on it, mostly. I wasn't involved in any experiments.
     
  14. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    science has moved forward quite well since those days.
    they can make it into paper or fabric for clothing.
    the high end fabric is very soft and highly sought after, however, the old style of making that fabric from bamboo makes a lot of toxic waste that CANT be neutralized.

    the new production method
    seems to be quite a potential game changer.

    Bangladeshi & sri lanka slums filled with fabric garment production toxic chemicals poisoning millions of people and land for decades while taking all the 1st world jobs and the middle men taking all the profits ...
    its the worst of the worst possible situations for macro-economics and national economic security.

    millions of children being given arsenic poisoned drinking water
    the western world fashion industry is trying to distance its self from all that slum lord child poisoning stuff.

    however, that is where billions have been made and continue to be made.

    the entire issue is extremely complicated by involved partys and national employment and income.

    a lot of catch-up-background reading required

    i am not an agriculturalist or botanist or arborist or farmer(though the name 'farmer' varys wildly in knowledge and ability & terms of reference).
    my knowledge of the chemistry and the botany is very limited currently.
     

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