"Hello, is there anybody in there...?" A call to pagans, pantheists, and assorted...

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  1. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Who knows

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    The Christian religion had it's roots in sun worship and the likes, look what it turn into now..
     
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  3. one_raven God is a Chinese Whisper Valued Senior Member

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    Don't listen to Medicine Woman and Acharya S.
    These are unfounded speculation and far-reaching presumptions.

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  5. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    I think it makes sense though.. anyway it's not really important here anyway.
    For what it's worth I find your beliefs very respectable

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  7. one_raven God is a Chinese Whisper Valued Senior Member

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    Correlation does not necessarily imply causation.
    Jesus' teachings seem more rooted in Buddhism to me.
    But you're right - this is something for a different thread.

    It's worth a lot, actually, coming from you.
    Thank you.
     
  8. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    You're welcome

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  9. one_raven God is a Chinese Whisper Valued Senior Member

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    To be honest, calling them God and Goddess doesn't sit entirely right with me either.
    I tried for a while to come up with names for the God and Goddess, but I just haven't come up with anything yet.
    I tried combining staya and karma with different Sanskrit words for manifest.
    I tried combining different Sanskrit and Pali words.
    Nothing sounded or fit quite right, and it all seemed very contrived.
    Maybe I will come up with someting before all is said and done.
     
  10. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Or maybe you can just hold your beliefs without ascribing them to artificial entities, what's wrong with that ?
     
  11. one_raven God is a Chinese Whisper Valued Senior Member

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    Because I'm a writer.
    Because I like to share and discuss my thoughts and ideas and like to find ways to make them as undertsnadable and relatable as I can.
     
  12. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Hmm ok but you couldn't have explained it to me using the god and goddess analogy.
    You used another analogy that pertained more to reality

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  13. one_raven God is a Chinese Whisper Valued Senior Member

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    The boat thing?
     
  14. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Hmm yea, at least you described it in terms of "real" events instead of just saying god does this and goddess does that.
     
  15. Tht1Gy! Life, The universe, and e... Registered Senior Member

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    Well I had been on the computer for a while and needed to sleep, so I didn't have time to finish my thought. When I endeavor to wrap my mind around either concept they both seem beyond comprehension. But of the two ideas I find the ideas involved with infinity more appealing and satisfying. I was merely trying to convey that I have and do think of these things, and we're all just guessing here when it comes to the nature of the universe and or god. We don't truly know that something/idea will come along and blow all our preconceived notions out of the water. Like the fact that our brain receives billions of bits of information every second but we are only able to process two thousand in that same time. That's a whole lotta shit we aren't getting!!
    I does take me a long time to type a post. Also, as a manifestation of ADHD sometimes I leave out concepts when I type, and since my brain automatically puts them back in I sometimes am not aware that they are not there
    See above.

    This has come up before and I don't see why. They don't contradict each other. Also, I have said repeatedly I only use pagan for convenience.
     
  16. Tht1Gy! Life, The universe, and e... Registered Senior Member

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    I've made comments along these lines a couple times. Only I have said: God= will, idea or mind; Goddess = spirit, "holy ghost" or energy; and together they make existence, form, or matter.
     
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    So?
     
  18. Tht1Gy! Life, The universe, and e... Registered Senior Member

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    And I answered. I said: "sounds about right". That sounds like the working definition that science uses.

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  19. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    No lol. You don't get it.
    I'm asking if YOU recognize that the set is unique in nature, not if you recognize that science says so.
     
  20. Tht1Gy! Life, The universe, and e... Registered Senior Member

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    I answered.
    http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=1962134&postcount=408

    And yes, I do get it. You are going to keep asking the same questions over and over until I snap and say something I can be hung* with.
    Two things Enmos: 1, My computer is going into the shop (1500 miles away) tomorrow so I'll be off line for a week and 2, I no longer believe you wish to understand, your responses are too contentious, tho polite, for that.
    How many times can someone ask the same question over and over?
    Look Enmos, I like you and I want that to remain, so until you READ SOME BOOKS on the subject of pantheism I'll hold off on responding to you on this subject.

    *Well hung, I might add.

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  21. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    You used your own definition to disagree with it, that's not what I asked.
    I asked you to take the scientific definition (whether you agree with it or not) and tell me if the set of characteristics the definition uses is unique to things called "life" by science.
    If it's not unique, the definition kind of sucks.
    If it is unique, these objects in nature are unique and form, as a group, a distinct concept, called "life".
    I'm not willing to entertain the possibility that you are being deliberately evasive, I don't think you are like that, so I think you didn't understand what I meant.. :shrug:

    No, that's not my intention..

    I do wish to understand.
    I'm willing to blame my own "spiritual retardedness" for not getting what you have been saying, but I'm honestly trying to understand and experiencing great difficulties along to way.
    This apart from the question I asked you about life as defined by science, I'm positive you didn't get what I meant.
    Sorry to hear about your computer btw..

    Until I get the right answer ?

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    hehe
    No, if I feel you did not get the question I'll rephrase the question and ask it again.. nothing wrong with that right ?


    I like you as well ThtGy!

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    Maybe I should therefore drop this thread since my questions are apparently irritating to you.

    Huh ? lol
     
  22. one_raven God is a Chinese Whisper Valued Senior Member

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    Hmmmm...
    The allegory of the boatman..I woinder how well I could develop it.
    It might just work.
    It is certainly something worth considering.

    You have given me something to think about over my next few days away.
    Thanks.

    You may have just killed a baby God.
    How does that make you feel?

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