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No Joe, deregulation of a forced Income Tax backed Federal Issued via Fiat .... currency is in NO WAY SIMILAR to the competition of multiple currencies by Private Citizens.

NO WAY SIMILAR


And you're connection with the NRA must be because this is in the media presently which is something you may want to consider regarding your thought processes and how they can be usurped by the idiot box sitting dead front and center like the Shrines of Ole... of your so-called 'Living' room. News Flash, watching talking heads demagogue and manipulate you by appealing to emotion, is NOT really living. Mental paralysis more like it.

 

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Not everyone is inclinded to study, is it your inclination we should share out the grade of those that do work hard and study? Not everyone came from a family who supported their intellect, is it your inclination we should share out the grade of those that do work hard and study? Not everyone can run fast, jump high, swim, is it your inclination we should share out the trophies of those that do?

Want to know what poor people CAN afford Joe? Supercomputers that can connect via video to speak for nearly free to anywhere in the world that fit in their pocket. DO YOU UNDERSTAND that with competition and free-markets everyone will be able to afford healthcare??? The reason it costs so much is BECAUSE of the government!

I've worked at MANY minimum wage jobs. I worked three minimum wage jobs while double majoring in Biology and Biochemistry. I know ALL ABOUT working hard for little.

Here we agree, yes thanks to the crap Prussian model that Government 'Education' has modeled after itself we have MANY low-skilled cogs with limited creativity (that was ground out of them years ago) who have the social skills of inmates (they can raise their hand and ask permission to pee) and very very limited reading, comprehension and critical thinking. They have been ill prepared to begin a business and even IF they somehow managed so survive over a decade of Government Education with any semblance of creative drive wouldn't know how to access capital markets anyway - not that we have any Capital, all we have are Debt Markets. Thanks to BAILING OUT the TOO BIG TO FAIL Banks there's no Capital left for productive business creation. The Governments too busy wasting it on it failed schemes or building those 'FREE' roads to no where at $1 billion a mile.

The ability to buy a supercomputer that can speak for free to anyone by video in the world, that is an example of prosperity. To die of obesity instead of starving to death is an effect of prosperity.

 

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So, let me see, the poor can afford supercomputers that fit in their pocket and can access all information in human existence in many instances for FREE. Yet can't afford a checkup.

Which of the two do you think reflects the FREE-Market better? Medicine which has the AMA 'donating' the second largest amount to politicians reelections, where to work as a doctor you have to go into debt up to your eyeballs (that's if your magic number is pulled out of the magic hat - there are hundreds of thousands of perfectly eligible students that just won't get picked through no fault at all of teir own). Or electronics where anyone can give it a go and it's up to the free market to put bad products like Zune down.

They most certain could out compete this person IF he's not reinvesting in his business and instead wasting his capital on his house.

Don't you understand how it works? If the owner really is a greedy SOB, then in the free market he will be put down like a dog. It's just too bad so many people have so little understand of what the free market was. You're so used to living in a Progressive Fascist UNfree Market that I'm afraid you just can't imagine what a truly free society would look like.

See, he understands how to access money and has access TO money because he actually was educated, unlike his employees. Yes, he probably is a douche and it is sad that there's such little competition around that has can afford to "sit on his laurels" and use his capital to build himself a big house. In a free market with none of the Progressive safety nets people would care greatly about truly ensuring their children were properly educated (more than likely at home where 110% full attention can be directed towards learning) instead of this fabulous sill set of watch PowerPoint pass Multiple Guess Test. Secondly having neen raised i in a monetary free-market, using money they way it was invented to be used would be second nature. Thus, the managers of these pizza shops would open their own shops. The employees would be gunning to open a shop either in pizza or another food service. Palace boy would be hard pressed to keep up and would have to keep investing into his business and paying his top employees for their labor in. A labor tight market just to remain IN business. He doesn't want that! Then he'd have to work for a living. NONE of the factory owners do. Which is why they love Government School where. millions of Americans sausages are pushed out the Great Sausage Factory that poses as education.... With none of them any wiser and not knowing anything about what is important crucial knowledge, like how to create a businesses, how to access money markets, critically thinking, creatively driving themselves. AND WHEN THEY DO, our friend Mr Government passes every regulation in the book to make it nearly impossible to get into the market and offer a product! Thank government for that. It's why there's so many drug pushers in the city - they want to start a business and they work hard, but they can win against the government and the people who control the money. Never mind most of the Public School Teachers lack those skills as well and most weren't the cream of the intellectual crop having opted for a safe emplacement in the public sector versus fighting it out in the free market. To make up for their lack of pay they have resorted to the abomination that is Public Sector Unions which has resulted in long term bonds and this whole house of cards is about to collapse. The obligations are NEVER going to be paid. A lesson in risk if ever there was one. Nothing is risk free.


Thank Government, as it grows (soon to be 25% GDP and growing) the number of Win-Win trades will be reduced and the people, ignorant of where prosperity came from, will listen to demagogues, blame the palace boys and grow government in a cyclic of wash rinse repeat, until we're as poor as all the other Socialistic societies after they've spent all their capital. The rise and fall of great nations all follow this same path.

 

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You are writing that famous gibberish again. Every currency in the world today is a so called “fiat” currency. And those currencies compete on the open market today across the world. With the click of a few buttons, I can purchase Euros, Canadian Dollars, Swedish Krona’s, Mexican Pesos or any of the world’s currencies without leaving my home. Anyone can go to a local bank in the United States on any given day and purchase any currency in the world if they had a desire to do so. If I want to use a foriegn currency in commerce with my neighbor, I am certainly free to do so. But here is the rub; my neighbors in the US don’t want to use the currency of other nations. They want to use US dollars in commerce.

You just find this fact along with many others unpleasant, so you like to pretend it is not true. You seem to think there is some magic with multiple currencies. There isn’t. That is why my neighbors don’t want to accept multiple currencies in any commerce I may have with them. That is why the nations of the European economic union have moved from multiple currencies to single currency, the Euro.

I have no connections with the NRA. The NRA example is only the most current example. The deregulation of industry has not worked. It has never worked. Your solution to our economic challenges is to do more of what has hurt us just as the NRA’s solution to mass murder with guns is more guns – as the old aphorism goes, “The definition of insanity is repeating the same mistakes over and over again and expecting different results,". That is you Michael. That is also the NRA and the Republican Party as well. Fortunately, most of have learned from the mistakes of the past.

 

No of course not, you had proposed in your previous post that everyone should be entrepreneurs rather than worker bees and I pointed out not everyone has the same skills, the same backgrounds, the same inclinations, the same leadership and social skills or the same advantages of birth. That is why not everyone can be entrepreneurs.

So super computers can diagnose, draw blood, render medical aids, produce and administer medicines, do surgeries and provide hospitalization care for patients? Maybe someday, but that is currently not the case. Super computers cannot yet do all of those things.

If you are trying to make the case that government regulation of the healthcare industry has driven up healthcare costs, undoubtedly that is true. There has been excessive regulation in the industry to benefit certain special interest groups at the expense of the patient and those who cannot afford medical care (e.g. American Medical Association, Pharmaceutical Interests, etc.). But that doesn’t mean that some regulation is not needed. Just as there is a need to inspect food and drugs to maintain quality, there is a need for standards of care and quality standards in the healthcare industry. I don’t think most people, certainly not I, want to go back to the days where snake oil salesmen were selling cures for everything from the back of their wagons. We need the laws/regulations that can be proven to improve quality of care and product. We don’t need or want the laws/regulations that exist only to restrain market competition and drive up prices (e.g. extended patent protections, limiting the supply of physicians, etc.).

Good for you, but that doesn’t change the fact that worker bees can be more productive if they are healthier. And that doesn’t change the fact that if you use a resource you should pay the full cost of that resource. Some of us like to pretend there are no costs to not providing healthcare to workers or there is no cost to pollution because the person who benefits by not providing healthcare to their employee or the person who pollutes doesn’t pay the cost associated with that activity. There is a cost. In the case of healthcare, the government and employees in other industries pick up that expense. In the case of pollution, the person who gets ill pays the cost for the polluter both in dollar costs and in pain and suffering or the government that cleans up the pollution pays the expense. Somebody pays; the expense does not vanish just because the benefactor doesn’t pay the expense. Some people like to pretend these expenses don’t exist if the benefactors don’t pay for it.

In Schnatter’s case, just because he is allowed to be a deadbeat by not paying the healthcare expense for his employees and instead shift those medical expenses to the federal and state governments and to other employers and employees, it does not mean that those healthcare expenses don’t exist. Just as a polluter may not have to pay for polluting our land, air and water, it doesn’t mean that pollution is an expense free activity. It just means the polluter doesn’t have to pay the expenses associated with his/her pollution.

Well for starters, our system of education has worked well. It has allowed us to become a world power. Second, it is not the responsibility of the state to teach social skills. Families need to do their part in the educational process. And people for the immediate future will continue to be constrained by their genetics. There will always be a low skilled working class but that doesn’t mean they should be treated inhumanely. It doesn’t mean they should be left to starve or die in the streets. We need these workers. At some point in the future, both low end and high end workers are likely to be replaced by robots and super computers. But it doesn’t mean these people are not entitled to decent healthcare or a roof over their heads or food in their bellies.

With respect to super computers and other advances in technology, they will no doubt revolutionize our economy and our world in the coming years. But we are not there yet. With respect to your comments on capital, governments and industry have plenty of capital. What they don’t have is the confidence to use it. And who can blame them with the wing nut faction in Congress threatening to cause the nation to intentionally default on its debt every few months. And no one is advocating building roads to nowhere, much less at the expense of a billion dollars per mile. That is just more nonsense and demagoguery.

 

question why is someone(micheal) whose ideology(pro power libertarianism) can be refutted by a couple of entry level college courses lecturing anybody on economic and political issues? shouldn't someone actually know what the hell their talking about before trying to "teach"( I use this in the loosest possible senses). I mean kid doesn't understand history. basicly ignores all historical thought to essentially argue the reverse is true. doesn't understand even the most basics of econ. is confused about the free rider problems. incapable of understanding externalities and how thet effect the allocation of resources in a market. he reminds of a kadark only able to use bigger words. same lack of knowledge and preachyness other than that.

 

somehow I think your lying either that or else your really really really stupid. because you have consistently stated that you feel people working those jobs if they don't like them should just start a buisness, if you worked them you would KNOW that is immpossible for they just don't have access to that kind of money.

 

Are you telling me you can pay your labor tax in pesos? Well?

OH, That's right, NO you can't. This means the USD has an unfair advantage against any emerging currency because the US Government can sell Bonds in USD and FORCE you to pay them back in USD, and your children and their children. Now, try and use those two neurons up there and rub them together. Can you see how that gives the USD an unfair advantage?

Do you know of the laws regarding the use of Gold and Silver in the USA? I'll give you a clue, because Europeans and Australians can use gold in accounts overseas. YOU CAN'T. Got that Joe? Do you understand you are LESS free to transact in gold then I, a dual citizen, am? Probably not, because you just want to live in this fantasy world where the government is there to take care of you. When the exact opposite is true. You are by LAW NOT ALLOWED TO own gold in account overseas. That's a simple fact Joe. A FACT. Why? Because your 'Servants' don't want you to. They want you to only use USD or other currencies because all other currencies must transact through the USD when the exchange takes place. You DO understand what being a reserve currency is? What? You think we maintain bases in Germany and Japan because of the USSR? Islamic Terrorists?

Any of this pushing past the 12 years of indoctrination?

 

There is no NEED of a government agency. Private insurance companies can serve the exact same purpose. It's just that you can't seem to understand that ANYTHING the government (A Group of Humans) does can be done by a private sector (Group of Humans). You will NEVER escape institutions like the AMA (which formed with the specific goal of driving UP healthcare fees for doctors). Never Joe. Never ever. You in your busy life will NEVER know enough information to prevent small groups of dedicated humans from working from the inside quietly year after year using the force of government against you. And worse still, you quickly normalize to the violence being perpetrated against you.

You literally have Stockholm syndrome.


Mark my words Joe, LONG AFTER THIS FRAUDULENT WAR ON TERROR is over and Islam long forgotten - you WILL be searched everywhere from football matches to shopping malls by Government employees TSA agents, and your kids and grand kids, will think this is completely normal for people in a FREE society. Not ever stopping to question the drones spying on them, they'll just assume that they live in a free society when nothing could be farther from the truth. Their life will be that of Tax Cattle and in no small thanks to you. Ever been to a nation where the military walks the streets and people just think that is NORMAL? Well, you soon will be.

 

Thanks to MASSIVE Government regulation, licencing fees, rent seeking and corrupt banking it is difficult, but its not impossible.

I was in a small Japanese "restaurant" just last week. A sign said, come in if you want to, and if I'm in a good mood I will be cooking. It was very very small (sat about 9 people). This isn't uncommon. It was atop creakily wooden stairs and obviously was this woman's back end of her second story house. She had a small beer tap. And a small kitchen. The food was OK and cheap.

There is NO WAY you in the USA would be ALLOWED to open this business and conduct trade with your so-called 'Free' Citizens. Do you understand that? Everything from the licences you'd need, safety requirements, access regulations, food regulations, to never being able to afford a 'Liquor Licence'. It's one of the reasons I always feel so much MORE free in Japan with it's winding small streets littered with businesses. People are always opening small businesses. They are everywhere. Small little living rooms transformed into a small shop selling some noodles that seats 6. Or a small bar in the front of a house that seat 2. Yes, a bar that seats 2 and maybe has a small take away tap open at night.

You live in your Progressive Fascist State where the Government will put every and any roadblock in your way. So, yes, you are correct, in the so-called Land of the Free, it will be VERY VERY difficult, nearly impossible, to open a small business for someone working on minimum wage. This is NOT the case in Japan. As a matter of fact, a friend of mine worked as a pastry Chief for 8 years with no other training (beginning in highschool). She finally saved enough money with her minimum wage partner to take a 3 week trip to Italy to learn some cooking skills at a cooking school there, then return to Japan and rent a small space in a new apt complex with decently affordable rent to open her 'dream' Italian Restaurant. That was two years ago. This year she just put down a payment on a very affordable small but brand new apartment . Next year is time to have a baby.

This dream would NEVER happen in the USA. She'd never afford the regulations, she'd never even afford a Liquor licence even if she was lucky enough to somehow get one. Everything would be stacked against her from conducting free trade with other people. Thank gods for her, she wasn't born in the USA and was born in Capitalistic Japan.

Does this mean Japan is perfect? Hell no, they have WAY TOO MUCH GOVERNMENT and it's working hard each and every day to destroy the prosperity and make life hard for average Japanese like my friend Sayaka. Is it doing so on purpose? Not really, it's the inevitable outcome of RESORTING TO VIOLENCE.


Imagine if you had a wife, do you really think you could BEAT her into loving you? Why is it you think government can beat us into being a peaceful prosperous happy society? It can no more do that than you beat the love into your partner. Only free voluntary interaction can do that.



Oh, and I DID use my part-time jobs to pay my way through University. I also accessed credit and took out loans I'm still repaying.

 

If you can get the government to agree, go for it. You keep talking about the use of force as being immoral. And now you want other to accept whatever currency you want to use? Today, anyone can use whatever currency they want to use. But all parties to the transaction must agree to the currency. Large multinational contract always specify the currency of the transaction.

Yes I can, I just did. If you can convince the taxing agency to accept pesos, you can. But even if you cannot it doesn’t give the US dollar any advantage fair or otherwise. The US government can sell debt, but you are not forced to buy that debt. And if the US government sells bonds, it is selling debt. It pays you. And with few exceptions, the US government only sells its debt through a system of primary dealers who resell that debt on the secondary market. So if you want to buy US debt through secondary dealers, the currency of the transaction is between you and the dealer. But the US government will pay its bonds in US dollars. You don’t like the terms, no one is forcing you.

That is nonsense, right wing paranoid nonsense. I as US citizen can buy and sell gold and silver to my heart’s content with a phone call or a few button clicks.

 

HALLEJUHA, you admit there is a need for some regulation. We can quibble over wither that regulatory body should be a government body or a contracted third party, but just because an entity is private, it doesn’t mean it is better or worse than a government entity.

Associations of individuals be they government or be they private can be bad or good. That is something you have consistently failed to recognize. There is nothing magical that makes government agencies worse than their private industry counterparts and there is nothing magical that makes private industry better than their government counterparts. To think there is, is just magical thinking.

No instead of trying to engage in rational discourse you are hitting the old ad hominem again.

You are welcome to your paranoia. But it won’t be mine.

 

Are you telling me you REALLY do believe that the MASSIVE expanse of the TSA across cities, roads etc... in the USA is because of 'Islamic Terrorists'? That police drones and drones over football matches is because all these Muslims are jealous of our freedom? Is THAT what you think Joe? Because, if so, then one of us is paranoid, but it isn't me.


Regarding the fact YOU, as a 'Free' USA citizen are not allowed to use Gold. If you're Australian, European, Japanese, etc... then yes, you are allowed to open an account. BUT if you are a so-called 'FREE' US Citizen then NO you are not allowed to. That is a simple FACT. You remember those don't you?

Europacific

Yes, Joe, you are 'FREE' just like the roads and ObamaPhones.

Oh, and by the way, you've been singing your We Love The Fed since 2008, you've been telling us all along about how we had to bail out the Rich or we'd be f$cked, the sky would fall and we'd all be eating road kill. So? Now that rich Chinese are buying up 1 in every 10 houses in CA while American University students who can't find meaningful employment, are moving home to live with their parents tens of thousands of dollars in debt, who can't afford to start families (yes, the birth rate for the first time is lower than replacement - lucky we have a bunch of Chinese moving over, maybe they can teach us about Capitalism) .... you still think life is so great for Americans. Thank GODS we have the Bond Selling Government protecting us poor little weaklings from Apple and Google and Toyoda. Thank Gods the Government has put this country so deep in debt your children's grandchildren will never know a tenth of your parents prosperity.

Let me guess, it's all the GOP's fault.

5 Years Joe, and it's only just getting started. You are going to watch what your beloved Progressive Centralized Planned economy by Fascist Oligarchs does to society - first hand. I hope you enjoy it.

 

No, this is you making stuff up again.

That is more bullshit Michael. Americans can own gold and silver and hold it overseas or do whatever else they want to do with it. What you are referencing here is another Peter Schiff scheme. Coincidentally, one of the business programs I watch interviewed Mr. Schiff the other day. They had difficulty not laughing at the guy. Schiff’s investment record is far from impressive. Peter Schiff that great right wing investment God is first and foremost a salesman, not an investor. He continues to underperform but true believers know that one day he will be right, and they keep on buying his gold and silver investments.

But anyway back to business, anyone selling securities in The United States must register and comply with US security law. That means they have to file reports and provide transparency. If they don’t then you cannot sell those securities. This has nothing to do with the ability of US citizens to buy and sell gold anywhere in the world. If I wanted to buy gold or silver today, I could do that in any market around the world or down the street.

Yes much to your chagrin we do have roads and I rather like them. As for Obama phones, that is another previously debunked right wing myth that you still cling to.

You are still making stuff up Michael. I never said we should bail out the rich. I said the bank bailouts were necessary to protect the average working Joe’s and Jane’s of this country and I explained why. That is far different from bailing out the wealthy. If you were an owner of bank shares during The Great Recession you took a bath. If you were a bank executive and your bank received TARP funds your bonuses were clipped. So this rich bailout notion you are pushing is nonsense.

As for Chinese nationals purchasing one out of 10 homes in California, I don’t know that to be true. But there is nothing new about foreign nationals purchasing US real estate. They have been doing it for decades. It’s very easy to purchase real estate in the US versus a place like China and it is good for our local industries. It puts people to work building homes and home furnishings. That is normally considered a good thing. I find it odd, that you being a “Libertarian free trader” would find it disturbing that foreign nationals are buying US real estate. Isn’t that what free trade is supposed to be?

And yes, life has been and is relatively good for Americans as has been repeatedly proven to you over the course of the last 10 years. Things have gotten better for the average American Joe’s and Jane’s. That is not to say that some people have not felt pain. There has been a shift from low end manufacturing in the US to high end manufacturing and factories have become much more efficient due to technology and now require less labor. And that was the result of something you claim you like, free trade and the globalization of markets.

Well some things are due to Republican malfeasance that is true, the debt, the credit downgrade, the dysfunction in Congress, eight years of bungled wars, pork riddled government expansions, crony capitalism, and the deregulation that caused The Great Recession of 2007 -2009.

LOL, that is more right wing fantasy Michael. For starters, there is no “Progressive Centralized Planned Economy” run by fascist oligarchs. But it makes for good demagoguery.

Here again I find your argument contradictory, as you are they guy who wants to hand the wealthiest among us a carte blanche – let them do whatever they want whenever they want after all, that is the Libertarian way. Libertarians believe it would be immoral to force a polluter to clean up his pollution, and it would be immoral to make laws that require employers to be fair in their hiring practices and in their treatment of employees.

 

A) your support of stealing, and you support a lot of it under the banner of National Good (which is a meaningless phrase). You want the government to steal from our children through bond sales, your want to tax the worker of his labor (which is sick), you tax the business person for being successful and hand over his or here's personal Capital to someone in government who isn't. And then to top it off, you happily tax the poor with inflation - something that was a criminal offense in our early history. There basically isn't anything you won't steal if given a chance to vote to do so.


B) The numbers don't lie Joe, under Obama almost ALL the so-called gains (most of which I'll gotten) have went to the top 1%.

Rich continue to get richer under Obama

C) Procreation by rape is a lot different than by love. Do you understand that using force 'for the public good' is an oxymoron?

D) And you wonder why people want the Union to fall apart. You wonder why Americans are going ape shit. It's because of people like you. You will be the reason why this Union fails the test of time. Not those Americans you denigrate for the gall of wanting to be left the hell alone. The only reason this Union worked was because the government was small and kept out of people's lives. While you may not mind being molested at the airport, or seeing drones fly over cities, or watch as our President formulates a Citizen Kill-List with his campaign Propaganda manager, and then kills a US teenage child. Nooe, many of are not so happy to stand in their stall and be milked as other of us are.

You happily made it clear there is NO aspect of our lives not influenced by government in one way or another. Everything from the thickness of the shoe leather in my shoes, to the toilet I take a shit on is regulated by government. If I have my own money and want to take it overseas, I have to declare how much. If I were to import my car, there'd be some regulation and agency I have to pay for the privileges to do so. If I bring in a few to many ounces of alcohol, good old Joe is there to stick the governments hand in my pocket for The National Good, because I use the roads (which I pay for in tolls and Gasoline tax).

The only decent solution is we separate. You live in your country with your central bank, big government, lots and lots and lots of progressive policies where you tax and regulate the Hell out of everyone (for their own good) and all your welfare queens and chicken little war hawks. Those who prefer a small government (preferably reaching zero government) that only maintains an army for self defense, where private property, the respect for law and fee-market volentary trade and capital are cherished live in ours. Just watching the flood of welfare queens jumping ship and swimming to Naton of Joe would be worth it in and of itself.

E) Purchasing gold bullion has its own regulations by the US government which is why US citizens are not allowed to open account. Unlike those douches at the Fed, Peter Schiff not only called the coming crash but wrote a book Crash Proof: How to Profit From the Coming Economic Collapse in early 2007 at a time when Bernanke at.al thought the economy was doing fantastic. These are THE SAME idiots who bailed out their buddies in the Bankster Industry and the same crooks who after their time in Give-me-ment go and work as crooks themselves. They are destroying our entire way of life right now as I type.

 

I see you are back to rewriting the dictionary again. Government is not stealing from our children or anyone else for that matter, nor is inflation theft. And we have not seen the great out of control inflation you and those like you have been predicting for the last decade. But these allegations make for some great demagoguery. And I think that is why you and people like you use them so frequently.

Numbers may not lie, but people do. You are changing the subject here. You had previously alleged that the money spent to bailout the banking industry was a giveaway to the wealthy. And I reminded you, that allegation was a myth as the wealthy suffered too. So you think it is surprising that when the economy recovers the wealthy don’t benefit as well? The wealthiest top 1% own most of the income producing assets. So you think it is surprising they benefit when the economy recovers? Really? But that doesn’t change the fact that the money spent to save the nation’s banking and manufacturing industries was spent to benefit the average Joe’s and Jane’s. Their jobs and their savings were at stake.

This is just more demagoguery Michael. This has nothing to do with rape and only you are using the term public good. The discussion is about making rational decisions to the challenges that are before us. But you and your fellows cannot divorce yourself from your addiction to demagoguery.

First, most Americans don’t want the Union to fail. Most Americans are not going ape shit. Only the right wing nut cases want the Union to fail. Only the right wing nut cases, invigorated by the opiate of demagoguery disbursed by the right wing entertainment industry want the Union to fail and are going ape shit.

You are free to live where you want to live. But where are you living? Last I heard you are living in Japan, a country with a government larger and more intrusive than what we have here in the US. Funny, you don’t like the US so you move to a more socialist country for whatever reason. It seems to be that if you really had the courage of your convictions you would move to a country which has a vision more closely aligned to your political ideology.

That is simply not true Michael. There is no law preventing American citizens from opening accounts or trading gold. For example I can open an account at the Pert Mint (Australia) at any time and buy or sell gold certificates, if you feel otherwise; then please do identify that law. What is against the law is for Schiff to sell securities to US citizens who reside in the US that have not been registered with the SEC and do not comply with American securities laws and do not provide transparency.

Schiff is a snake oil salesman, nothing more, nothing less who makes a fortune satiating the emotional needs of right wingers. If you did what Schiff recommended in 2007 through 2012 you would have taken a bath. But that is ok, because Schiff devotees know that regardless of fact someday, somewhere, Schiff is going to get it right.

 

pk now I sure those words don't mean what you think they do




also if the free market is so good why is that for profit hospitals are less efficient and have worse statistics for paitent outcomes?
http://www.pnhp.org/news/1997/october/forprofit_hospitals.php
http://www.buffalo.edu/news/releases/2002/05/5712.html
https://sph.uth.edu/rosenau/files/2011/12/PVR-PERFORMANCE-EVAL-OF-FOR-PROFIT-PGS-401-4231.pdf
http://www.ibiblio.org/prism/Apr97/market.html
http://www.southcoasttoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20120510/LIFE/205100305


need I continue?

 

um question if the free market is the panacea to health care why are for profit hospitals less efficient and have worse outcomes for patiants than non profits?

 

The doctor visit. At least medicine, unlike the internet and the computer chip, was not actually invented by the government using taxpayer funding, nor is it provided and maintained largely by government agency.

And medical insurance - the actual subject (you appear to have misread again) - is a bastion of market economics. That's one reason it costs so much: a serious competitive edge in denying medical care to people is expensive.