Help with English

Discussion in 'Linguistics' started by Saint, Aug 24, 2011.

  1. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    Simply a socialist economic system combined with an agricultural (crops, farmland etc) way of life, or at least where the majority of the population are engaged in such agriculture.
    Yes.
    Comes from the Latin gluttio meaning "swallow".
    In French the word "glouton" (from which we get "glutton", and thus "glut") is someone who eats to excess - their belly is oversupplied with food.
     
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  3. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    The American section of Dictionary.com says that "onwards" is the British way of saying "onward." The British section says that "onward" is the American way of saying "onwards."

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    The animal that we North Americans call the wolverine is known as the glutton in Europe. Wolverines are fierce hunters who eat a lot of meat to support their high metabolism. The wolverine is the only species of predator in which just one single animal can kill a moose. (Yes, polar bears are enormous, but they're aquatic predators who can't run fast enough on land to catch a moose.

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  5. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    rigmarole = ? shaggy-dog?
    Is dog really shaggy?
     
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  7. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    Rigmarole is a long-winded process, usually with things deemed unnecessary, redundant etc.
    If you don't like formal dinners, for example, you may find them a bit of a rigmarole.
    Or the internal administration within a company might be a rigmarole if it is a lot of effort for not much benefit.

    Not sure where you got the notion about shaggy dog.
    I think the closest is when something is referred to as a shaggy-dog story (you can look it up on wiki), but that's not really anything to do with rigmarole.
     
  8. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    Rigmarole is similar to red tape.
     
  9. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    A shaggy dog story is:
    • Extremely long;
    • Full of irrelevant details that are eventually discovered to have no relation to the story at all;
    • Very disappointing at its climax because it actually has no climax, but continues toward a termination that is discovered to be pointless.
    In other words, a shaggy dog story is a waste of time. Sometimes the reason is that the storyteller is incompetent. But other times the reason is that the storyteller was deliberately wasting everybody's time in order to divert their attention from something much more important.
     
  10. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    eyes of the storm means what?
     
  11. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    The eye of a storm is the central part of a hurricane/cyclone that is relatively calm relative the the rest. But if you're in the eye of the storm it means that you have come through the storm to get there and you have to go through the storm to get out.

    So as a metaphor it means a relatively peaceful time after some strife/argument/disruption but knowing that there is more strife to come before it's over.
     
  12. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    "Gallivant" struck me, on first encounter, as having an obvious English base in chickens and moorhens and such birds (gallinules) traveling around France (Gallic Europe).

    Tourists easily excited, trivial of purpose, apparently aimless overall, drawn to shiny things and "chickenfeed", showing off their flashy feathers as they strut around the barnyard. It's French overtones, the idle rich touring the Gallic world, would make it stick.

    I'm surprised its roots, if different from that, are not certain.

    Some people tell them in such a way that the continual digressions and so forth are part of a larger joke involving the "wasted" time and attention.

    I've seen Kevin Burke (the fiddle player) and Leo Kottke (the guitarist) take introductions to tunes into shaggy dog stories, ending with the beginning of the tune. Worth the price of admission, both times.

    My father passed down to his sons a family shaggy dog story - it starts like a quick but contrived joke of any provence, morphs into an account of the adventures of a fur coat (it gallivants, anywhere the teller can take it), ends with a bitter disappointment suffered by the final wearer, which is illustrated by the empathy of a moth produced from the coat (this provides an opportunity for a recap of the entire thing, if you can get away with it) and the following pun, which as you have not heard the story I will now proceed to relate: "Have you ever seen a moth bawl? ".
     
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  13. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    punchline = ?
     
  14. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    The punch line (sometimes written as a single word) is the end of a joke that makes you laugh.
     
  15. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    What is "sucker" ?
     
  16. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    “Donald Trump is a phony, a fraud,” the millionaire investor told a friendly audience at the Hinckley Institute of Politics in Salt Lake City. “He’s playing the American people for suckers: He gets a free ride to the White House, and all we get is a lousy hat.”

    phony =?
    why lousy hat?
     
  17. Daecon Kiwi fruit Valued Senior Member

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    A sucker is someone who's easily manipulated or easy to trick/fool.

    A phony is someone who's insincere or fake.

    The lousy hat probably refers to the saying about going somewhere fantastic and wonderful, and the only souvenir they bring back for their friends is something worthless.
     
  18. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    amicus curiae = ? French word?
     
  19. Walter L. Wagner Cosmic Truth Seeker Valued Senior Member

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    Latin. amicus = friend, in the nominative case; curiae = 'of the court', in the genitive case (nominative case is curia).

    'friend of the court' brief; someone who is not a party to the case, but wants to advise the court nonetheless. requires a request to the court for permission to file the brief.
     
  20. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    People like Trump is braggadocious?
    Is it a borrowed word?
     
  21. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    The word "sucker" goes back a few centuries, referring to a very young animal that was still nursing from his mother. This evolved into the modern slang meaning: someone who seems to be so naive that he can be easily cheated.
    The word "braggadocio" means bragging about something that is not true, or that doesn't even exist. It was first used in a book written by Spenser (a famous British writer) in 1590. It's obviously based on the word "brag," with a common Italian suffix added to make it look like it's really a foreign word.

    "Braggadocious" is not in the dictionary. Obviously it's meant to refer to a person who brags a lot.
     
  22. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    smoking gun = ?
     
  23. Walter L. Wagner Cosmic Truth Seeker Valued Senior Member

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    when someone commits a murder with a gun, and you happen upon the scene, and he's holding the gun and smoke is coming out, that is very strong evidence that the gun was very recently fired, linking the person to the murder.

    so, a 'smoking gun' is evidence that links someone to a 'bad deed'.
     

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