Holocaust Industry = Hate Speech?

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  1. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Others can do that for them, scientist are not the only ones allowed to fight for science.

    So you agree with me about this not being a legitimate crusade and a general means of jerking off?

    Rule of the internet #9: "There are no real rules about moderation — enjoy your ban."

    Its his forum, he can do what ever he wants with it, that fact does not need to be stated anywhere it should just be known.

    I think he has maintained his ideals of banishing only the most offensive, though of course banishing has nothing to do with encouraging objectivity, freethinking and intellectualism, banishing for every small rule infraction for example will bring none of that, its like trying to us a hammer to fix a computer, he needs to implement more tools if he wants to improve this forum.

    Yeah that why you are permabanned over a year ago, oh wait...

    If there ever was a cry for "I need my own forum" that would be it.

    Your on!

    No its not, I'm not in good favor with the moderation here either, but you only notice your own plight and think the world is against you and you alone, if only you could run things you would show them, yep grade A forum administrator material! Not grade B like James that try despite them selves to hold to concepts of fairness and all.
     
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  3. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Dear well cooked fetus, I did not imply that a badge of honour was how you are perceived by the moderation.

    And no I don't see my "plight" alone [I don't have a plight, just a lack of patience].

    But he is improving this forum. Its becoming exactly like him.

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  5. scifes In withdrawal. Valued Senior Member

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    or religion, or jesus, or mohammad...
    seconded.
    the underlined might be a first..
    but the bolded part definitly is not..


    and she is right.
    i.e honest.
    looki here:
    in orleander's thread about the child molester in KSA who got beheaded, i posted pics.
    they were not allowed to be posted..
    no links to them were offered.
    they were deleted.
    yet i saw once a pic enmos posted about aerosols which explode in your face when you turn them into a flamethrower..
    the pic wasn't... pretty.
    and it was posted.. no links.
     
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  7. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Then I'm not a "badge of honor at sciforums" as what the moderators and Admins want here, not you, is what consider honorable here.

    Your right, and your missing a lot more than patience.

    I would think he wants members and a forum that more like him: multipolar and able to debate a wide range of topics instead of flaming just one group of issues sadly he gets more and more members like you that just do the latter, so no the forum become something more like scum then resembling any person. Don't worry someday the forum will improve, cycle back, either due to policy changes or simple time and random events.
     
  8. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    One can hope.
     
  9. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Good bye :bawl:
     
  10. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Bye :thankyou:
     
  11. countezero Registered Senior Member

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    Please, go already... Enough with the pages of leave-taking.
     
  12. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Weren't you permanently banned last week? How did you come back?
     
  13. parmalee peripatetic artisan Valued Senior Member

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    evidence? and can you define what exactly you mean by "offensive" here?

    you see, it's just not the way that i see it.





    oh, nevermind--this is what you really meant:

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    sciforums, indeed.
     
  14. Randwolf Ignorance killed the cat Valued Senior Member

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    Perhaps I frequent this forum for different reasons than most, but I would like to briefly state my piece.

    There are many here that appear to be stupid, uninformed, childish, bigoted, etc.

    Nonetheless, that very fact is what makes this forum appealing, at least to me. I do not agree with some, or even most, of what SAM espouses, nor the methods she uses to express those opinions.

    However, as we settle into the "zero tolerance" policy and learn to cope with the "new philosophy" of SF, it seems that we face danger.

    Left unchecked, this community will become completely homogeneous and totally devoid of debate, save the in the driest academic sense.

    Granted, I have only been here a year or so, but I have witnessed great changes during that year, some for the the better, some not so much...

    Let us not allow these forums to become nothing more than a sounding board for those that already agree in principle, a place where people do little more than say "Amen", "What he said" - it takes all the spice out, leaving a bland broth of little more than filtered water.

    Rather let us encourage our members to stand up and speak their opinions, rather they be composed of the controversial or the mundane. Handle individual problems on an individual basis. While this thread may be pointed to as an example of doing just that, it would seem that there are larger consequences in play - slippery slope, and all that.

    In closing, I come here for entertainment. Remember, when the delusions of grandeur are all boiled away, we are left with an internet forum. An internet forum people! Shall we banish someone for life because they promote their own opinions? Even if such promotion is done with vehemence? Now if an individual is guilty of misrepresenting, misattributing, plagiarizing, stalking or even deliberately lying, perhaps a permaban is in order.

    On the other hand, if there is any ambiguity, or reasonable doubt as to the facts of the situation, should not the benefit of the doubt be extended to the alleged perpetrator?

    I realize that the case at hand is like an iceberg - only the tip is showing here, in this particular thread. Nonetheless, should not each individual act be judged on its own merit, as opposed to relying on feuds going back years?

    Bottom line, even though I don't agree with many posters here, I grieve to see a colorful personality disappear from our midst. Less color, less spice - less entertainment for me. Can't have that...

    Of course, since I am the supreme being of the universe, this is all that matters!

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  15. parmalee peripatetic artisan Valued Senior Member

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    i am very much in agreement with most of your post (only a minor quibble, which is of little pertinence) AND like you, i come here for entertainment--although, to be clear, by "entertainment" i do not mean (and i believe that you do not, either) simply "shits and giggles." but as to the the bolded portion above: because of a very apparent trend in this direction, the "entertainment" is becoming merely "shits and giggles," frankly. (bland: yes, but still funny).

    and as to "holocaust industry=hate speech": pffffft. absolutely hysterical. i've got to wonder if someone here is also in the habit of burning books.
     
  16. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Thats too much of a stretch. We are talking about a person who has a position on the Israel Palestine issue and does not know of Palestinian refugees.
     
  17. parmalee peripatetic artisan Valued Senior Member

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    watch it, SAM! now you're trying to get me into trouble too.

    note my very carefully selected language (oh, i was ever so cautious!):

    first, i am only speculating--i am making no claims.

    second, i said "someone"--one can infer from that whatever one wishes; but--in spite of the sentence which directly preceded it --methinks the implication somewhat ambiguous.

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  18. Cowboy My Aim Is True Valued Senior Member

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    I'm familiar with Mr. Finkelstein's book and I'd like to point out (if it hasn't been pointed out already) that the book doesn't deny that the Holocaust occurred.
     
  19. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Why would anyone think so? Both of Professor Finkelsteins parents are holocaust survivors. He could hardly be so ignorant as to claim it did not happen

    Sorry just ignore me, force of habit.

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  20. Cowboy My Aim Is True Valued Senior Member

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    I was pointing that out in case other members made the assumption, since the reference was used in a thread about a Holocaust denier.
     
  21. countezero Registered Senior Member

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    I thought you were leaving, not spending your entire day on the forum talking about it?
     
  22. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    You thought wrong obviously.

    Meanwhile do tell me why your permaban was reversed?

    I admit I was surprised that string had permabanned you. But I was even more surprised that Plazma reversed it.
     
  23. kira Valued Senior Member

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    Gee, can't wait few more hours, eh? :bugeye: James already said that he makes a poll to see other mods' opinion, in which if the vote results:
    > 2/3: she'll be permanently banned
    < 2/3: she'll be banned for 1 month

    Some hours ago I've already PM SAM that if she is banned, I'll also leave. Not because I disagree with James' decision, but because I'd be sad posting here after SAM permanently banned. However, I guess few pages ago SAM already appologizes, so I hope James will drop it. If not, just wait some more hours, why don't you :bugeye: Otherwise, just put her on ignore :shrug:
     
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